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Old 12-04-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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Native Americans are "Indians", right?

In European languages, Indians/Paks are Asians; East Asians are orientals.

When Christopher Columbus set off for sail to China, he believed that one can reach East by keep sailing West since Earth is round. When these Europeans first landed in the Caribbean islands, they thought the native American are Indians and they had reached West Indies. The Earth is actually much bigger than Columbus thought and he did not know there is a continent (American Continent) west of Europe blocking direct maritime way to China.
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Old 12-04-2016, 04:39 PM
 
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Arrow MILLIONS of Asians come to the Navajo Nation yearly

Last week in China on CCTV , I saw a picture of Antelope Canyon in my town of Page Arizona (Navajo Nation). It is no wonder they come here by the buss loads & on to the Great Circle of National Parks.



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Old 12-04-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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Are you Han Chinese, or aboriginal Taiwanese/Austronesian?
I am predominately "Han" in ancestry per my family tree (which only tracks paternally) my paternal ancestors came from Zhangzhou, Fujian Province, China 8-9 generations ago during the Qing Dynasty. That is quite common ancestry for many who identify as Hoklo (Minnan/Hokkien speaking Taiwanese). Most Taiwanese trace their ancestry only paternally which is the traditional way of Han genealogy. However, I also suspect I have some Plains Taiwanese Aborigine Ancestry. They are called the Pingpu and they are distinct from the Eastern/Mountain Aborigines. Most Plains Aborigines have assimilated into the Han culture or intermarried. I also had a Taiwanese DNA specialist who has a healthy sample of DNA from across the population in Taiwan. She noted that maternally, I have some DNA that matches the Pazeh Plains Taiwanese people of Central Taiwan. Incidentally, my mother's side of the family comes from Tanzi, Taichung County, Taiwan and Fengyuan, Taichung County, Taiwan where the Pazeh are native to. Thus, I suspect one of my earlier male ancestors intermarried with some of the Pingpu Plains Taiwanese such as the Pazeh.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingpu_peoples

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan...ins_Aborigines

See: https://www.kahaku.go.jp/research/pu...NMNS_D40_1.pdf
(NOTE: incidentally, my mtDNA is a subclade of M7c). (see: PhyloTree.org | tree | M7)

While my YDNA is a subclade of O3a (now it is a subclade of O2a per ISOGG 2016 Y-DNA Haplogroup O) It is O2a2a1a1a (M159) which is more common in Southern China including Fujian Province of China and of course appears in Taiwan).

NOTE: Phenotype does not always have correlation with which Haplogroup you are. I know some Hoklo Taiwanese who can look Korean, Northern Chinese or Japanese and others who look more Southeast Asian, Filipino, etc. My brothers and I do not even look related to each other.
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Old 12-04-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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I would also like to add that there is an interesting theory called Neoteny which some believe is responsible for East Asian, neo Mongoloid feature vs. more "proto-Mongoloid feature). See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mongoloid#Neoteny

(Also remember my earlier posts regarding Sinodonty-neo-Mongoloid vs. Sundadonty-proto-Mongoloid).

As one of my earlier posts alluded to that Native Americans and East Asian have common ancestry through YDNA K. The neo-Mongoloid feature occurred much later after the split and thus, Native Americans have less neoteny features than East Asians.
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Old 12-04-2016, 10:07 PM
 
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I am predominately "Han" in ancestry per my family tree (which only tracks paternally) my paternal ancestors came from Zhangzhou, Fujian Province, China 8-9 generations ago during the Qing Dynasty. That is quite common ancestry for many who identify as Hoklo (Minnan/Hokkien speaking Taiwanese). Most Taiwanese trace their ancestry only paternally which is the traditional way of Han genealogy. However, I also suspect I have some Plains Taiwanese Aborigine Ancestry. They are called the Pingpu and they are distinct from the Eastern/Mountain Aborigines. Most Plains Aborigines have assimilated into the Han culture or intermarried. I also had a Taiwanese DNA specialist who has a healthy sample of DNA from across the population in Taiwan. She noted that maternally, I have some DNA that matches the Pazeh Plains Taiwanese people of Central Taiwan. Incidentally, my mother's side of the family comes from Tanzi, Taichung County, Taiwan and Fengyuan, Taichung County, Taiwan where the Pazeh are native to. Thus, I suspect one of my earlier male ancestors intermarried with some of the Pingpu Plains Taiwanese such as the Pazeh.

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pingpu_peoples

See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan...ins_Aborigines

See: https://www.kahaku.go.jp/research/pu...NMNS_D40_1.pdf
(NOTE: incidentally, my mtDNA is a subclade of M7c). (see: PhyloTree.org | tree | M7)

While my YDNA is a subclade of O3a (now it is a subclade of O2a per ISOGG 2016 Y-DNA Haplogroup O) It is O2a2a1a1a (M159) which is more common in Southern China including Fujian Province of China and of course appears in Taiwan).

NOTE: Phenotype does not always have correlation with which Haplogroup you are. I know some Hoklo Taiwanese who can look Korean, Northern Chinese or Japanese and others who look more Southeast Asian, Filipino, etc. My brothers and I do not even look related to each other.
Thank you for sharing that. I'm mainly familiar with the people of Lanyu. Although the literature says that only they and one or two other tribes were coastal fisher-folk, I suspect that most of the tribes originally lived on or near the coast, before the Han began to colonize the island.
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Old 12-09-2016, 02:02 AM
 
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It's probably an individual by individual thing.
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:34 PM
 
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they is pretty
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Old 02-23-2017, 09:36 PM
 
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I liked latinas, they are beautiful .. nose, skin etc.
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Old 03-27-2018, 09:27 PM
 
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I liked latinas, they are beautiful .. nose, skin etc.
The beautiful/handsome Americans who usually have a mixture blood of europe or the so-called " Hispanic " with characteristics like tall body,sharp nose ,light skin, brown hair no wonder such as the winner of miss universe or other pageant usually be it male or female they always dominate then native inhabitants or Native Americans tend not too interesting
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Old 03-27-2018, 09:29 PM
 
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some of them look asian
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