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[neMarL]

^^ LOL that ranking is so cringe tbh just because there is a drug war happening, which in fact made the country safer on the contrary, and some insurgency going on in the southern part being instigated in part by some of your citizens and truly asia too.

Take the advise and observations of these vloggers.

[Mr.Pagpag]

keep denial
look ur homicide rate, higher in ASEAN!
no wonder every security carrying gun!

[Mr.Pagpag]

Originally Posted by neMarL

^^ yeah start from the bottom, surpassed and then back to being surpassed back again. It is indeed a great race and ride with you, we'll see what the future holds...

GDP Growth Rate

PH
2015- 6.1%
2016- 6.9%
2017- 6.7%
2018- 6.7%

ID
2015- 4.9%
2016- 5.0%
2017- 5.1%
2018- 5.3%

Only the most hardcore Indonesia defender/fans will not see the Philippines surpassing Indonesia not only in per capita but even the GDP if this trend continue in the next decade or so.

when u surpass indo both gdp / percapita? are u dreaming / delusional?
those vietnam growth rate higher than u,.. they surpass ur gdp , or percapita?


only delusional and big dreamer thinking PH can surpass Indo GDP nominal

[neMarL]

Vietnam growth rate just accelerated this 2019 but on average Phils growth rate has still been higher than both Vietnam and Indonesia. Even at that Vietnam is employing economic tactics that can be considered morally incorrect like currency manipulation and sugarcoating figures to appear high.

Alright then, lets just see what the future holds! Have a great day.

[Landove]

Originally Posted by neMarL

Basic Necessities

INTERNET USERS

PH
total: 56,956,436
percent of population: 55.5% (July 2016 est.)

ID
total: 65,525,226
percent of population: 25.4% (July 2016 est.)


Debt - external

PH
$80.88 billion (31 December 2017 est.)
$75.01 billion (31 December 2016 est.)

ID
$322.6 billion (31 December 2017 est.)
$316.5 billion (31 December 2016 est.)



DRINKING WATER SOURCE

PH

improved:
urban: 93.7% of population
rural: 90.3% of population
total: 91.8% of population
unimproved:
urban: 6.3% of population
rural: 9.7% of population
total: 8.2% of population (2015 est.)

ID
improved:
urban: 94.2% of population
rural: 79.5% of population
total: 87.4% of population
unimproved:
urban: 5.8% of population
rural: 20.5% of population
total: 12.6% of population (2015 est.)


SANITATION FACILITY ACCESS

PH
improved:
urban: 77.9% of population
rural: 70.8% of population
total: 73.9% of population
unimproved:
urban: 22.1% of population
rural: 29.2% of population
total: 26.1% of population (2015 est.)

ID
improved:
urban: 72.3% of population
rural: 47.5% of population
total: 60.8% of population
unimproved:
urban: 27.7% of population
rural: 52.5% of population
total: 39.2% of population (2015 est.)

It's almost similar at urban areas of both countries but difference clearly shows when we go to the rural area, ID figures is saddening at rural level.

From where you get those bulls?

Even the first information that's very easily measured is wrong.
In 2017, internet penetration in Indonesia reached 143 Million. This is fact not just useless estimation.
https://e27.co/internet-user-penetra...port-20180220/

[Landove]

Originally Posted by neMarL

^^ yeah start from the bottom, surpassed and then back to being surpassed back again. It is indeed a great race and ride with you, we'll see what the future holds...

GDP Growth Rate

PH
2015- 6.1%
2016- 6.9%
2017- 6.7%
2018- 6.7%

ID
2015- 4.9%
2016- 5.0%
2017- 5.1%
2018- 5.3%

Only the most hardcore Indonesia defender/fans will not see the Philippines surpassing Indonesia not only in per capita but even the GDP if this trend continue in the next decade or so.

You can dream as big as you want, sure. Maybe sometime in the far future you will achieve that.

But surely you miss the basic information that the economic growth is in percentage, means it's comparative to the actual size of economy.

In 2017, Indo's GDP already surpassed USD 1 Trillion, grew 5% means adding USD 50 Billion to the economy.

While Philippine's GDP was USD 313 Billion in the same year, grew by 6.7% (let's round it to 7% for easy calculation ), you added only USD 21 Billion.

And Indonesia tries to be strong manufacturing country. There were bans of exporting some raw minerals to support fast growing mineral-processing-industries locally. In short run of course it would give negative impact to the economy, as expected it slowed down. But in the long run, let's see

Plus Indonesia is still upgrading our infrastructures, thousands km of new roads, hundreds km of new railways, tens of new airports, dozens of new seaports, etc. These are done for the sake of stronger foundation for further healthy growth. And it's well translated in quality of infrastructures rank, from "comparable to Philippines" several years ago to "comparable to Thailand" now.

And as you see, slowly but sure the percentage of growth is increasing for Indonesia. Wait till all infra projects are finished and give impact to the economy

[Mr.Pagpag]

This internet user

Originally Posted by Mr.Pagpag

Wanna race? Indo start from very bottom and surpass u!

[Mr.Pagpag]

Next INKA Project Medium Speed Train
Jakarta - Surabaya (714 km) speed 200kmph




Dont compare to ur local made hybrid train, and how PNR maintain their train

[Pagpag_Masarap]

i cant see significant build3x project





hope ur second term build3x project can surpas this work3x project
Indonesia has a $412 billion plan to rebuild the country
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...e-country.html

[Pagpag_Masarap]

Originally Posted by neMarL

^^ LOL that ranking is so cringe tbh just because there is a drug war happening, which in fact made the country safer on the contrary, and some insurgency going on in the southern part being instigated in part by some of your citizens and truly asia too.

good u blame other country,.. meanwhile
Philippines rejects call for UN rights council probe
https://www.thejakartapost.com/seasi...cil-probe.html