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Old 02-07-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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Jakarta ... people will see the whole of Jakarta not only see one area such as the SCBD or Kuningan area or in Manila say like the BCG or Makati area. Jakarta is very wide area there is East Jakarta, North Jakarta, South Jakarta, West and Central Jakarta, all of which have a very impressive area.
Manila just starting to build while Jakarta it has been built and will be enjoyed
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:13 AM
 
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Sorry to burst the bubble with Jakarta being already "built" while Manila still building up, if I have one thing to say, it's "delusional"!
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Old 02-08-2019, 12:20 AM
 
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Kinda have that Miami vibe when looking from the bay aerial vintage point... Miami in steroids!

















^^ it's going to be bigger than Makati or BGC

BGC

https://imgur.com/a/iNZns

Makati

https://imgur.com/a/iNZns









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Old 02-08-2019, 08:31 AM
 
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Jakarta ... people will see the whole of Jakarta not only see one area such as the SCBD or Kuningan area or in Manila say like the BCG or Makati area. Jakarta is very wide area there is East Jakarta, North Jakarta, South Jakarta, West and Central Jakarta, all of which have a very impressive area.
Manila just starting to build while Jakarta it has been built and will be enjoyed
I just explained how SCBD and Kuningan arent even comparable to BGC or Makati because those are small areas and are like little islands compared to our main CBDs. Also, there are nice areas all over Metro Manila, not just BGC and Makati.

A lot of people live and work in the Ortigas/Eastwood/Greenhills CBD and dont even go to BGC or Makati on a regular basis. Same with Alabang. It’s a CBD thats very far from Makati or BGC but offers the same quality of life, if not better.

There’s lots of nice neighborhoods in Quezon City, Marikina, Parañaque, Las Piñas. None of these areas has a major CBD in it and it covers are very large part of Metro Manila.

Many tourists stay in Ermita/Malate (old downtown Manila) and see the old part of the city like Intramuros (Spanish Manila), Binondo (Chinatown), Rizal Park and the many museums around the park. So thats a completely different experience from Makati or BGC.

Other tourists stay in Bay City or Newport City by the airport. That area is mostly devoted to leisure. Lots of huge resorts, casinos and malls. And there’s more and more still being built. Everything is basically built for tourists who are staying in Manila short term. So this is a different experience from someone staying in Malate/Ermita or someone staying in BGC or Makati.

These are all different parts of Manila, in different areas and they all offer different experiences.
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Old 02-08-2019, 11:07 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Philippines BUILD BUILD BUILD program cost $180B in 5 years (highest in history), I'm not sure how much is for Metro Manila but big bulk of it.

How about Indonesia/Jakarta?
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Old 02-10-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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Sorry to burst the bubble with Jakarta being already "built" while Manila still building up, if I have one thing to say, it's "delusional"!
oh nahh do you understand what i mean?? it is true Manila first built MRT / LRT than Jakarta even KL but the infrastructure is still lacking, in Jakarta this time MRT / LRT has been built equipped with great infrastructure for users
BTW..BRT JKT is one of the most popular Jakarta transportation Jakarta society in general, besides the price is very cheap usually free from


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFUN2H3oDOY

and changes that continue to be made in Jakarta


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pwm7SZ6XIhY
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Old 02-11-2019, 11:27 PM
 
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How can that $450 infrastructure spending in ID be realistic when these are the actual figures per year?

2017- US$29.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...dget/item7318?

2018- US$30.23 billion
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...s-in-2018.html

2019- US$28.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...ding/item8945?

Total USD 88.83 billion

You would magically spend $361.17 in 2020 alone just to meet that $450 billion dream?
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Old 02-12-2019, 12:03 AM
 
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Here it is:

Philippines: $180B from 2016 to 2022
Indonesia: $69B from 2015 to 2019

Malaysia: $51.6B
Thailand: $46B
Vietnam: $6.6B
Singapore: no data

https://seasia.co/2017/12/10/we-will...ucture-in-2018
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:37 AM
 
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How can that $450 infrastructure spending in ID be realistic when these are the actual figures per year?

2017- US$29.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...dget/item7318?

2018- US$30.23 billion
https://www.thejakartapost.com/news/...s-in-2018.html

2019- US$28.8 billion
https://www.indonesia-investments.co...ding/item8945?

Total USD 88.83 billion

You would magically spend $361.17 in 2020 alone just to meet that $450 billion dream?
That figure came from our state budget only. There were still other sources like from SOE, Private sectors through PPP, etc. Feel free to google it.
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Old 02-12-2019, 01:58 AM
 
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Here it is:

Philippines: $180B from 2016 to 2022
Indonesia: $69B from 2015 to 2019

Malaysia: $51.6B
Thailand: $46B
Vietnam: $6.6B
Singapore: no data

https://seasia.co/2017/12/10/we-will...ucture-in-2018
Rubbish news.
You can boast, even spread misleading information. But at the end of the day, it's all about real result that matter.

Quality of infrastructure by World Economic Forum

2010-2011 Report

Indonesia Ranked 82
Philippines Ranked 104
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Glo...rt_2010-11.pdf

2015-2016 Report
Indonesia ranked 62
Philippines ranked 90
https://www.smm.lt/uploads/documents..._2015-2016.pdf

2017-2018 Report
Indonesia ranked 52
Philippines ranked 97
http://www3.weforum.org/docs/GCR2017...%80%932018.pdf

See how Indonesia manages to excel and keep improving year after year, while Philippines keeps struggling in the bottom.
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