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Old 06-07-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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Please add flying carpets and snake charmers.
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Old 06-07-2019, 05:16 PM
 
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So, most suggest north africa, thanks for suggestions. I also don't think that Uzbekistan is so relevant to the middle east
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That all being said - belly dancing, camel rides, etc. Yeah you can go to Egypt and experience all that. But they are tourist gimmicks. Your average Egyptian doesn't go to work on a camel and then sit down for dinner to watch a belly dance.
that's all i wanted, to contact middle eastern culture as a tourist from Europe, I am aware that people in real life do not celebrate these things anymore
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Please add flying carpets and snake charmers.
don't forget Jinn
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Old 06-07-2019, 07:03 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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The Central Asian -Stans might qualify, except they are heavily overlain with Soviet infrastructure. But places like Osh would still be interesting, or get out into the rural towns of Kyrgyzstan. Those places still celebrate the steppe culture and are re-Islamizing.


You might also find it in the disputed territories of Kashmir, in northern India/Pakistan/..

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Old 06-07-2019, 07:31 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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The Central Asian -Stans might qualify, except they are heavily overlain with Soviet infrastructure. But places like Osh would still be interesting, or get out into the rural towns of Kyrgyzstan. Those places still celebrate the steppe culture and are re-Islamizing.


You might also find it in the disputed territories of Kashmir, in northern India/Pakistan/..

Sounds like an “oriental experience” I’d pass on. Seems like places you would need an AK 47 to ward off the locals.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:25 PM
 
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Sounds like an “oriental experience†I’d pass on. Seems like places you would need an AK 47 to ward off the locals.
The locals in that area are some of the most welcoming I've come across in the world. You are probably much safer there than in many places in the Middle East.

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So, most suggest north africa, thanks for suggestions. I also don't think that Uzbekistan is so relevant to the middle east


that's all i wanted, to contact middle eastern culture as a tourist from Europe, I am aware that people in real life do not celebrate these things anymore


don't forget Jinn
The OP didn't specify Middle East and Turkey can arguably be considered more culturally tied to Central Asia than the Middle East since they share ethnic ties with the Central Asian Turkic people. A lot of the perception and culture of the "Orient" actually originates from Central Asia.
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Old 06-07-2019, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Sitting Pretty, USA
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Please add flying carpets and snake charmers.
There are plenty of snake charmers in Jma El Fna in Marrakesh. No flying carpets but tons of hanging ones in the medina souks. Also, pink-brown geometric architecture, dazzling tilework, spice markets, camels, belly dancers, djellaba-clad men, and nearly everything else the OP wants to experience.

OP, I would suggest Morocco to you, especially Marrakesh, Fez, and Meknes. I understand what you want to experience. It's all there in Morocco!
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Old 06-08-2019, 06:44 AM
 
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Guys i am not interested at all in central Asian countries. Ihave been to most of Europe, and now i am interested to experience middle east (which is something very different from central Asia regardless from common religion) far east (China and Japan, not tropical places like Thailand or Vietnam) and India, starting from the middle east

Therefore -stan countries are already excluded

A landscape like this (in the second half of the video)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi52HjJbwVQ

Is a good example of what i am looking for
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The OP didn't specify Middle East and Turkey can arguably be considered more culturally tied to Central Asia than the Middle East since they share ethnic ties with the Central Asian Turkic people. A lot of the perception and culture of the "Orient" actually originates from Central Asia.
I think that Turks are mostly influenced by Persians who certainly aren't Arabs. I have been told that Persians are very different from Arabs, but you have to be from west Asia to be able to recognize this fact, for the standards of Europeans all of these people are similar (even if in fact they're not), meanwhile central Asians give a different impression because of physical appearence (slanted eyes) and far east influence in their civilization. But (back to turkey) Semitic/Arabic influence is important

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Old 06-08-2019, 07:05 AM
 
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The Morocco Pavilion at the Epcot Center in Orlando, FL!
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Old 06-08-2019, 08:52 AM
 
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Guys i am not interested at all in central Asian countries. Ihave been to most of Europe, and now i am interested to experience middle east (which is something very different from central Asia regardless from common religion) far east (China and Japan, not tropical places like Thailand or Vietnam) and India, starting from the middle east

Therefore -stan countries are already excluded

A landscape like this (in the second half of the video)


https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi52HjJbwVQ

Is a good example of what i am looking for


I think that Turks are mostly influenced by Persians who certainly aren't Arabs. I have been told that Persians are very different from Arabs, but you have to be from west Asia to be able to recognize this fact, for the standards of Europeans all of these people are similar (even if in fact they're not), meanwhile central Asians give a different impression because of physical appearence (slanted eyes) and far east influence in their civilization. But (back to turkey) Semitic/Arabic influence is important
You're probably going to be interested in Morocco, Egypt and parts of Mauritania.
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Old 06-08-2019, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Boston, MA
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I would suggest Saudi Arabia but that nation is pretty much off limits to any non-Muslims. The closest doable country then is Jordan which I read somewhere is the most Arabic of all Middle Eastern countries other than Saudi Arabia. For more authentic experiences, go to locations away from Amman, the capital city, and touristy sites like Petra.
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