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Probably you have been not through those days. People didn't demonstrate due to poverty in 1989 -- but against government corruption.
And I don't see the Hong Kong Democracy Demonstration, especially overseas, is anti-China at all. Their main slogans are "Hong Kong is not China", "No China Extradition Bill", "Democracy for Hong Kong".
These slogans may offend Chinese officials. But why do they offend Chinese students and immigrants?
There were all kinds of reasons for the protests in 1989, corruption, too, yes.
Even Chinese students are mostly nationalist. Just because someone from China studies in the West, does not mean he supports democracy or is against China/in favor of HK.
I don't think they will pay a single dollar.
Britain should never have been in Asia in the first place. China should do anything to undo colonialism. I have zero understanding for any Western claims as the West had abused and ripped of most of the world for centuries.
Beijing will likely have to pay, though probably not in full.
During the lengthy talk between China and Britain on Hong Kong's transition in the 1980s, Beijing also paid outstanding debt to Britain which were incurred before 1949.
There were all kinds of reasons for the protests in 1989, corruption, too, yes.
Even Chinese students are mostly nationalist. Just because someone from China studies in the West, does not mean he supports democracy or is against China/in favor of HK.
Do you mean because Chinese students hate democracy, so they harass the demonstrators who advocate for democracy in Hong Kong?
Beijing will likely have to pay, though probably not in full.
During the lengthy talk between China and Britain on Hong Kong's transition in the 1980s, Beijing also paid outstanding debt to Britain which were incurred before 1949.
Do you mean because Chinese students hate democracy, so they harass the demonstrators who advocate for democracy in Hong Kong?
Hate is a strong word, but yes, I think China means much more to Chinese students than democracy or HK does. The Chinese are not stupid. When they look around, what they see is democratic countries being radicalized and split due to democracy. So why would they defend that?
Also, many of them probably don't care about and like HK which enjoys privileges. A spoiled brat so to speak.
And please no more cheating in SAT, students and teachers who supervise the test center alike.
SAT didn't even trust anyone in China because cheating is so rampant. They canceled all test centers in Mainland. All your students take the test in overseas centers, mainly Hong Kong. Local students have problem to register for the test in Hong Kong.
Probably you were one of the testers that went to Hong Kong to take the SAT too.
I don't think they will pay a single dollar.
Britain should never have been in Asia in the first place. China should do anything to undo colonialism. I have zero understanding for any Western claims as the West had abused and ripped off most of the world for centuries.
Funny thing is that China is the preeminent colonial power of our time ... ironic ain't it?
Hate is a strong word, but yes, I think China means much more to Chinese students than democracy or HK does. The Chinese are not stupid. When they look around, what they see is democratic countries being radicalized and split due to democracy. So why would they defend that?
Also, many of them probably don't care about and like HK which enjoys privileges. A spoiled brat so to speak.
China is more powerful now than in the past and the Chinese are enjoying economic liberties unheard of only a generation ago. That is what Xi and the CCP want to preserve, that economic prosperity because without it, you can be sure the citizens will revolt. They will revolt because there is no democracy, there is no system in which they can merely vote someone out of office. It's like every time there's something wrong with your computer you'd have to rip open your computer's hard drive just to fix it. Then you'd have to spend a lot of time, money, and effort to put the hard drive back together and get it functioning again. However, because the people are taught to fear and dislike democracy, they will not master the art of voting and will instead resort to traditional revolts and revolutions. That is what Xi and the CCP fear the most. The Chinese government fears losing its grip on power because once without power, they would be mercilessly destroyed just as countless Chinese dynasties were in the past. China does not have a kind history towards rulers who are overthrown. Look what happened to Guomindang supporters after 1949 for example.
Probably you have been not through those days. People didn't demonstrate due to poverty in 1989 -- but against government corruption.
Corruption has been the catch all attack against unpopular leaders in China. Corruption has always been a problem in China, it does not explain why they decided to protest in 1989.
People complained because the economic reforms led to businesspeople and politicans getting very rich while the majority got left behind. Price controls got lifted and the government was eliminating unproductive jobs and replacing them with low end manufacturing. From the perspective of a university student from Beijing, that’s not the kind of job that they had been envisioning for themselves and inflation reduced their purchasing power.
Earlier they had stable jobs and pretty much everyone was poor. Losing their jobs and seeing some people getting rich felt very unfair. Also, people wanted more democratic freedoms just like in Hong Kong. Once people started to see improvements in their own standard of living, then people got more content with the government and started to ignore the corruption.
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