HK Protesters are playing right into Chinese govt's hands by disrupting HK (move, speaking)
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For all the hoopla about Hong Kong's advantages ("the rule of law", "Anglo foreign judges", "Heritage Foundation winner of Economic Freedom", "Free Internet", "Westernized population", and "Free Speech") over the Mainland, Hong Kong has not created a single major technology company or any new corporation (can anyone name a internationally successful HK company?). The economy is still dominated by the opium dealing parasites like Jardine Matheson, HSBC, and Swire or the local utility monopolies. Strange enough, Shenzhen which was a small fishing village is now a tech center and the "uncreative" Mainland "locusts" are creating far more innovative companies than Westernized Hong Kongers. Hong Kong's GDP before the handover was at 20% of the Mainland's GDP but now it's a mere 3%. Since the Mainland is less reliant on foreign capital than before, HK's role is becoming less and less important.
For all the hoopla about Hong Kong's advantages ("the rule of law", "Anglo foreign judges", "Heritage Foundation winner of Economic Freedom", "Free Internet", "Westernized population", and "Free Speech") over the Mainland, Hong Kong has not created a single major technology company or any new corporation (can anyone name a internationally successful HK company?). The economy is still dominated by the opium dealing parasites like Jardine Matheson, HSBC, and Swire or the local utility monopolies. Strange enough, Shenzhen which was a small fishing village is now a tech center and the "uncreative" Mainland "locusts" are creating far more innovative companies than Westernized Hong Kongers. Hong Kong's GDP before the handover was at 20% of the Mainland's GDP but now it's a mere 3%. Since the Mainland is less reliant on foreign capital than before, HK's role is becoming less and less important.
That's irrelevant to what Hong Kong's role is --- as a financial center, logistics and regional HQ center. It has that because of its legal system, efficient transport hub and foreigner friendly environment. Which is why a lot of China companies like listing shares in their exchanges because of the opaqueness of the Chinese financial system.
HK never was a technology or R&D hub - that's not its strength.
Did you follow what happened yesterday? Not only did they cause massive economic damage by blocking the airport, they also found a chinese reporter, looked through his documents and tied him up cultural revolution style. After some time they started to kick him and he was sent away with an ambulance.
I also saw a lot of people throwing things at cars in the airport, and they were a massive nuisance for travellers.
Geez, blocking the airport after 10 weeks of nothing from the government. What a bunch of monsters!
He hasn't been following, he was misleaded by some media.
My co workers witnessed police stations being attacked with bricks and arson outside this month. There were also many other incidents.
Do you think all the videos are fake? It is now more than two months and you still say the protestors are completely peaceful. If you don't trust the Mainland Chinese or Hong Kong people, you can ask the Taiwanese in HK what the young HK protestors did and how many times they were not peaceful since the start of June.
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Originally Posted by Greysholic
The protest is completely peaceful. The police force and the PRC-backed gangs are the ones doing the damage.
He hasn't been following, he was misleaded by some media.
My co workers witnessed police stations being attacked with bricks and arson outside this month. There are also many other incidents.
Yeah, many other fake incidents fabricated to cater to Chinese netizens to be against the protest, which honestly aren't needed at all. Hundreds or even thousands of HKers could die from a Tiananmen-style crackdown and people in China (and a certain Norwegian, btw) would still blame the protestors for being violent, lol.
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Do you think all the videos are fake? It is now more than two months and you still say the protestors are completely peaceful. If you don't trust the Mainland Chinese or Hong Kong people, you can ask the Taiwanese in HK what the young HK protestors did and how many times they were not peaceful since the start of June.
I certainly have seen many videos of protestors being beaten by the police and the PRC-backed gangs, including that female paramedic blinded by a rubber bullet.
And I find it comical that you would want me to ask Taiwanese ppl in HK about this. 70%+ in Taiwan support the protest in HK, fyi.
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You miss many other true videos and eyewitnesses in HK.
I already know many Taiwanese support the protests in HK but many older pan blue Taiwanese don't support protesting by hurting people, destroying facilities built by taxpayers money and shouting rude Cantonese. Educated pan green Taiwanese like teachers also don't teach students in Taiwan protesting by violence. I know a Taiwanese professor teaching in HK and she doesn't support the violence of all sides in HK.
Most older politicians in HK including the opposition are against violence but the young protestors don't seem to listen to their advice.
Yeah, many other fake incidents fabricated to cater to Chinese netizens to be against the protest, which honestly aren't needed at all. Hundreds or even thousands of HKers could die from a Tiananmen-style crackdown and people in China (and a certain Norwegian, btw) would still blame the protestors for being violent, lol.
Maybe we blame the protestors because we don't want another Tiananmen-style crackdown? You only seem to care about fighting to the bitter end, and not about actually achieving something.
Tiananmen square incident did not give Chinese people more freedom, violent or economic damaging protests will not give Hong Kong people more freedom, it will give them less.
Maybe we blame the protestors because we don't want another Tiananmen-style crackdown? You only seem to care about fighting to the bitter end, and not about actually achieving something.
Maybe you should blame the government instead.
I have noticed that you've always been defending the rapist instead of the victim. No wonder you had to leave Norway. You haven't answered my previous question about Norway under Nazi rule. Do you blame Norway for fighting back against the Norwegian campaign? Do you blame the Norwegian resistance?
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Tiananmen square incident did not give Chinese people more freedom, violent or economic damaging protests will not give Hong Kong people more freedom, it will give them less.
Yeah we've heard enough of this.
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many older pan blue Taiwanese don't support protesting by hurting people, destroying facilities built by taxpayers money and shouting rude Cantonese.
Probably because those older pan-blue Taiwanese are usually complete idiots.
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Educated pan green Taiwanese like teachers also don't teach students in Taiwan protesting by violence. I know a Taiwanese professor teaching in HK and she doesn't support the violence of all sides in HK.
I have noticed that you've always been defending the rapist instead of the victim. No wonder you had to leave Norway. You haven't answered my previous question about Norway under Nazi rule. Do you blame Norway for fighting back against the Norwegian campaign? Do you blame the Norwegian resistance?
You mean I blame the protestors (victim) instead of China (rapist)? You do realize it is possible to blame both parties? Sure I want China to accept democracy in Hong Kong, but I can also blame the protestors for making China do the exact opposite. I do not expect chinese regime to act against its own interest, just because it is the right thing to do.
The Norwegian resistance actually cared about achieving something, they are not like you who think virtue signaling is more important than maintaining Hong Kongs autonomy.
Also Greysholic, one question since you mentioned rapists.
Lets imagine you have a teenage daughter who likes to go out and party. Your city has a problem with drug rape, she went out, accepted free drinks from strangers, got drugged, but a good samaritan prevented her from getting raped.
She still wants to accept free drinks from strangers. Would you then reccommend her to keep accepting drinks from strangers because it is not her fault if she get raped, or would you tell her that she should not accept drinks from strangers because it is dangerous?
If you say that you would tell her to not accept drinks from strangers, then why can't I tell Hong Kong protestors to not do actions that risk China sending in the military, and by extension destroying the freedoms that Hong Kong people enjoy?
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