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Old 09-22-2019, 10:07 AM
 
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Why in the past did the British wanted Hong Kong?
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Old 09-22-2019, 06:42 PM
 
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It was because of a drug called opium, grown in British India, the British made profit by trading it.

The British wanted an island close to Canton which is now called Guangzhou to trade opium with China. They also wanted an island fully under their control where the Qing dynasty could not rule. HK's harbour was good for them because it is deep and surrounded by mountains and islands.
The British got what they wanted after defeating China in the opium wars.
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Old 09-27-2019, 10:04 AM
 
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Yup. The British had one of the world’s first drug cartels financed and supported by the monarchy. China was a huge market and was exploited to the maximum possible extent. The history of European colonialism has a pervasive dark side.
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Old 09-27-2019, 12:05 PM
 
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Why in the past did the British wanted Hong Kong?
for those who doesn't know asian history, its not only British who coveted Chinese territory. all the European powers in the late 19th century had an enclave in China. only the germans had no such territory coz they were late into the game or the newest country in Europe.the americans had no such territory too but they were they enforcing their interest too (Boxer Rebellion)

now why only Portugal and UK were able to maintain their territories well into the 20th century, need to read some more. i was only recalling our history class way back 35 yrs ago
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Old 09-28-2019, 12:20 PM
 
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The Germans had Qingdao in Shandong, but lost it to Japan which took it in world war 1.

This period is known as the century of humiliation in Chinese history.
The opium trade of the British was and is taught in HK schools in both British and Chinese rule HK.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:03 PM
 
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now why only Portugal and UK were able to maintain their territories well into the 20th century, need to read some more. i was only recalling our history class way back 35 yrs ago
Actually USSR, now Russia, has kept all the territories that Czarist Russia seized from Qing Dynasty.

Hong Kong was not the only famous seaport that Britain had set up at the height of its empire. Other famous British seaports were: Singapore, Malacca (Malaysia), Port Aden (Yemen), Port Alexander (Egypt),...etc.

In addition to Hong Kong, Britain also leased the seaport of Weihai in Shandong province for 99 years in 1898. But Britain returned the seaport to China in 1920s.
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Old 10-10-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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It was because of a drug called opium, grown in British India, the British made profit by trading it.

The British wanted an island close to Canton which is now called Guangzhou to trade opium with China. They also wanted an island fully under their control where the Qing dynasty could not rule. HK's harbour was good for them because it is deep and surrounded by mountains and islands.
The British got what they wanted after defeating China in the opium wars.
Hong Kong was not used for trading opium. It was conducted on the British leased territory, Shamian, in Guangzhou. Initially there were 13 Hongs (trading companies) involved in the trade.

Sensing that there was strong anti-British feeling in Guangzhou, the British needed Hong Kong as a safe refuge for those British merchants to set up residence for their families. It also served as a logistical base for the British mercantile fleet.
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Old 07-19-2020, 02:06 AM
 
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Today the largest tv channel of HK mentioned Chinese in British HK disobeyed their British and French bosses, refused to repair and supply the French Navy ships on their way to Taiwan because France and Qing China were at war. HK was the only port on the Chinese coast the French could go to because it was under British rule. This was just one of the many examples some HK Chinese did not support the west, supported China instead.
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Yup. The British had one of the world’s first drug cartels financed and supported by the monarchy. China was a huge market and was exploited to the maximum possible extent. The history of European colonialism has a pervasive dark side.
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:25 AM
 
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Hong Kong was not used for trading opium. It was conducted on the British leased territory, Shamian, in Guangzhou. Initially there were 13 Hongs (trading companies) involved in the trade.

Sensing that there was strong anti-British feeling in Guangzhou, the British needed Hong Kong as a safe refuge for those British merchants to set up residence for their families. It also served as a logistical base for the British mercantile fleet.
No Opium were something used by British East India Trading Company to extract Chinese money. They literary turn India ( and Pakistan) into Opium production center.

Because Chinese goods like tea were increasing supply of silver and gold to China.
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Old 07-19-2020, 08:15 AM
 
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The lease of New Territories expired in 1997. The British government led by Margaret Thatcher still wanted to keep HK in the early 1980s but China led by Deng Xiaoping refused. The British had to negotiate with China about the future of HK. An important reason is China was no longer the weak Qing Dynasty which lost a series of wars to colonial powers. At that time Shenzhen was also briefly occupied by the British before returning to HK.

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