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Old 01-31-2020, 08:18 AM
 
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Below is a link giving a current ongoing updated toll list of the coronavirus. The list includes countries, cases and fatalities. This list is updated as more information comes in.

As near as I can tell, the only country that has had any fatalities is China with 9,782 reported cases and 213 reported deaths. Thailand has the next highest number of reported cases (19), but no deaths. There have been no reported deaths outside of China. All other countries listed have less number of cases and no deaths. The current number of countries affected is 25 countries around the world.

This list might be helpful as a guide for travelers to determine the risk factor and whether or not to travel to certain affected countries. If you decide to travel to affected countries, be prepared in advance with supplies such as masks, medical gloves, disinfectant wipes and lotions, etc., as supplies may be extremely limited and hard to find in some countries. There have been reports of low supplies due in part to hoarding and people buying up large quantities of supplies.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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Old 01-31-2020, 08:50 AM
 
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What do we know about those who died from this? Are they all in the Wuhan area? Are they mostly elderly, young or with pre-existing health issues?
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Old 01-31-2020, 10:20 AM
 
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What do we know about those who died from this? Are they all in the Wuhan area? Are they mostly elderly, young or with pre-existing health issues?
Not much is known. According to the BBC (Jan. 30, 2020), most of the deaths have occurred in Hubei Province, which is where Wuhan is located and the outbreak is believed to have originated (the fish and meat market). I haven't seen any localized charts or maps showing where the deaths took place. It's possible some deaths have occurred elsewhere (rural locations?) but have not been reported. There is a chart in the BBC article (link below) that shows the spread in China over time between Jan 20 to Jan 30. That's about confirmed cases, not deaths.

Profiles seem to be pretty scant, apart from some info before Jan 1. Again not necessarily about deaths. It appears out of 425 confirmed cases before Jan 1, that the average age was 59, and half of the confirmed cases were aged 60 and older. It might be reasonable to suggest that the most vulnerable would probably be the elderly, children, and people with compromised health conditions. I've seen some reports of people who were confirmed to be infected, had symptoms no worse than a common cold, and had recovered enough to be discharged from hospitals. The problem is that even during the incubation period of the virus before any symptoms show, the virus is still highly contagious and can be passed along to others even before knowing you're infected. As far as I can tell, there have not been any reported deaths outside of China, yet.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51305526
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Old 02-02-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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Are we where we need to be to have this under control? I thought with the Chinese government doing everything right like locking down affected areas the death toll should start to go down but there seems to be an upward trend. We're also starting to see fatalities outside of China. Will this turn into a small pandemic situation? Is there any past episode where a viral infection takes a turn for the worse because of a mutation?

There's also talk online that this will die down naturally in the summer like the flu. Are the experts saying this too?
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Old 02-02-2020, 11:11 PM
 
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Are we where we need to be to have this under control? I thought with the Chinese government doing everything right like locking down affected areas the death toll should start to go down but there seems to be an upward trend.
it might feel like its been a long time, but it has only been a week since people started to stay indoors. 10 days ago tens of million people were travelling, and 8 days ago everyone was having dinner with their extended family. It takes around 5 days to get symptoms and 5 days to become a confirmed case outside of Wuhan.

It is not going to drop now that all the Chinese new year cases are coming out and they are trying to clear up the backlog. We need to wait till next weekend to see if the measures had any effect.

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Old 02-03-2020, 02:24 AM
 
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The US has issued a level 4 travel advisory on China ("do not travel"), which is only shared by Syria, Afghanistan, Iran and the likes. It's obvious that they are doing this to spite WHO, which is nothing more than China's lapdog and is putting China's pathetic face above all else.
According to the British newspaper The Guardian and professor Simon Holland from youTube channel, the Wuhan virus is just a new strain of common cold virus. It is no more deadly than a common cold. It only affect old people with compromised immunity system. I don't know why people are so hysteria about it, especially China.

The Australian virus or the H3N1 virus started last year from Australia is much more deadly than this. It infected probably a million people around the world by now and killed 40,000 people. You don't heard the news media talking about it or nations banned travels to Australia and WHO has never declared any health emergency over this.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:06 PM
 
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According to the British newspaper The Guardian and professor Simon Holland from youTube channel, the Wuhan virus is just a new strain of common cold virus. It is no more deadly than a common cold. It only affect old people with compromised immunity system. I don't know why people are so hysteria about it, especially China.

The Australian virus or the H3N1 virus started last year from Australia is much more deadly than this. It infected probably a million people around the world by now and killed 40,000 people. You don't heard the news media talking about it or nations banned travels to Australia and WHO has never declared any health emergency over this.

As we learned more info regarding this outbreak, doesn't seem to be just a "common cold". Fatality might be lower than SARS but it seems more contagious. And its fatality rate is definitely much higher than just a cold. Or even higher than a common flu.


The man who died in the Philippines was 44 years old. A 39-year old man died in Hong Kong today. These aren't old people. And both looked healthy with no symptoms when they arrived in the Philippines/Hong Kong from Wuhan. No underlying condition disclosed from the death in the Philippines. The one in Hong Kong is reported to have an underlying condition, not sure what it is yet.
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Old 02-03-2020, 09:09 PM
 
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The Australian virus or the H3N1 virus started last year from Australia is much more deadly than this. It infected probably a million people around the world by now and killed 40,000 people. You don't heard the news media talking about it or nations banned travels to Australia and WHO has never declared any health emergency over this.
Yeah. This never happened.
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Old 02-03-2020, 11:03 PM
 
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Not sure exactly if we can trust the official announcement that the patient who died in HK had an underlying condition. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...-epidemic-grew


Reported number of cases also don't quite match with the plans and actions. Wenzhou, Taizhou and parts of Hangzhou are now on lockdown. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-down-12388714 If the whole Hangzhou gets locked down, can cause even more repercussions.
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Old 02-04-2020, 12:19 AM
 
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Reported number of cases also don't quite match with the plans and actions. Wenzhou, Taizhou and parts of Hangzhou are now on lockdown. https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news...-down-12388714 If the whole Hangzhou gets locked down, can cause even more repercussions.
Right now local government officals are terrified that their city becomes the next hotspot outside of hubei. That is why they are doing dracoonian measures to contain it. Their career depends on getting their city under control.

In my opinion, I much rather have dracoonian measures than having the virus spiral out of control. Staying indoors is a small price to pay.
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