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Old 10-14-2021, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Yes, because they took control over Taiwan after WW2. If Japan had not participated in WW2, it would have been part of Japan.

China has not controlled Taiwan for 120 years, it has no more right to own Taiwan than Norway has a right to own Iceland.
Okay, that's our general viewpoint, which I agree with. But I'm sure it isn't China's viewpoint.
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Old 10-14-2021, 09:33 AM
 
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Okay, that's our general viewpoint, which I agree with. But I'm sure it isn't China's viewpoint.
China doesn't actually have a logically consistent argument for why Taiwan belong to China, which is why we see the dumb comparison to Newfoundland and ad hominem against Taiwan.

If you asked a Japanese in the 1930s why Japan has the right to invade, I am sure you will get some inconsistent arguments. But the main reason is just the desire to expand the country, also called imperalism.
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Old 10-14-2021, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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I was never pro-CCP and I am still against your targeting of Chinese people as it increases support for the CCP.
You totally were just like a few months ago.

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If Japan had not participated in WW2, it would have been part of Japan.
If only it had stayed that way lol.

Anyway, very few here minded China's recent tantrums. It was quite hilarious to read about twitter's freakouts about the ADIZ offences. Like they really thought the home to a) one of the best performing stock indices in the past 2 years, b) one of the best performing currencies in the past 2 years, c) an economy whose sovereign rating just got upgraded by two major credit rating agencies, d) lion's share of global supply of integrated circuits, and e) 10% of global container shipping, would be invaded during a massive global shortage?

Even if you don't believe the US, you can still pay some attention to the market.
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Old 10-14-2021, 09:59 AM
 
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You totally were just like a few months ago.
I am sure you will call me pro-CCP again after I call you out for making another sick comment about putting Chinese in concentration camps, wishing that the Japanese killed more Chinese or hoping that Covid screws over Europeans.

I have family in both Europe and China and do not appreciate you wishing my family harm.
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Old 10-14-2021, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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I am sure you will call me pro-CCP again after I call you out for making another sick comment about putting Chinese in concentration camps, wishing that the Japanese killed more Chinese or hoping that Covid screws over Europeans.

I have family in both Europe and China and do not appreciate you wishing my family harm.
It wasn't just that. You were totally against the HK protests.
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Old 10-14-2021, 11:32 AM
 
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It wasn't just that. You were totally against the HK protests.
The HK protest was too violent and gave the CCP the opportunity to implement the national security law and destroy what was left of HK democracy.

I think HK would have been in a much stronger position if the protest had stopped after the extradition bill was suspended.

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Old 10-14-2021, 03:49 PM
 
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China's illegal historical claims of the nine dash line and that of Taiwan are silly. If we go by historical rights, then Mongolia can claim all of China, no?
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Old 10-14-2021, 04:41 PM
 
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China's illegal historical claims of the nine dash line and that of Taiwan are silly. If we go by historical rights, then Mongolia can claim all of China, no?
anyone can claim anything if you have the resources to do so.
Mexico would like to have TX back,Canadians LA,
the American Indians would like N America back,incas,Mayans,UIGHURS ,Palestians.
Look at the JEWS,they left Palestine how many years ago,?
Why should we intervene,we are not the nanny of the world,Taiwan has been preparing itself since Chiang Kai Shak fled toTaiwan,it has a well trained large standing army,let it do its own fighting.
Fighting cost money ,very expensive.Stop indulging in wishful thinking.
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Old 10-14-2021, 05:38 PM
 
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anyone can claim anything if you have the resources to do so.
Mexico would like to have TX back,Canadians LA,
the American Indians would like N America back,incas,Mayans,UIGHURS ,Palestians.
Look at the JEWS,they left Palestine how many years ago,?
Why should we intervene,we are not the nanny of the world,Taiwan has been preparing itself since Chiang Kai Shak fled toTaiwan,it has a well trained large standing army,let it do its own fighting.
Fighting cost money ,very expensive.Stop indulging in wishful thinking.
The world intervened when Hilter invaded neighboring countries. They should intervene if China invades Taiwan. You are not a wumao, are you?
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Old 10-14-2021, 08:25 PM
 
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Xi is not Hitler,where have you been,do your homework !
if so,we are Hitler who stole the land from the American Indians ,drove them to poverty and despair.
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