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Why should we intervene,we are not the nanny of the world,Taiwan has been preparing itself since Chiang Kai Shak fled toTaiwan,it has a well trained large standing army,let it do its own fighting.
Fighting cost money ,very expensive.Stop indulging in wishful thinking.
The USA deal with other countries is in simple terms "we protect you against invasion, you stay in the US sphere of influence"
If the USA do not protect countries against invasion, then the USA will lose a lot of influence, which is not in the USA interest and will be much more expensive than stopping China from annexing Taiwan.
The USA deal with other countries is in simple terms "we protect you against invasion, you stay in the US sphere of influence"
Taiwan is a glaring strategic failure of China. By bullying Taiwan all the time China makes sure it will always have a democratic and prosperous Cuba right on its border. If China had treated Taiwan normally it would've had a Canada/Britain against its rivals and enemies. The US and Japan wouldn't have much room to wiggle if China and Taiwan were on friendly terms.
The only reason why China is so hated in Taiwan is because China treats Taiwan like crap, few people actually give two ****s about how China treats its minorities and whatnot. Otherwise there's no reason why Taiwan wouldn't be on China's side with a common language, personal relations and culture. It's remarkably stupid.
Taiwan is a glaring strategic failure of China. By bullying Taiwan all the time China makes sure it will always have a democratic and prosperous Cuba right on its border. If China had treated Taiwan normally it would've had a Canada/Britain against its rivals and enemies. The US and Japan wouldn't have much room to wiggle if China and Taiwan were on friendly terms.
The only reason why China is so hated in Taiwan is because China treats Taiwan like crap, few people actually give two ****s about how China treats its minorities and whatnot. Otherwise there's no reason why Taiwan wouldn't be on China's side with a common language, personal relations and culture. It's remarkably stupid.
Yes, having Taiwan as a friend would have led to a strategic victory for China, as the Taiwanese would have backed China in the South China Sea and pushed the Americans out of Asia. And, it would no longer be needed to invade Taiwan because Taiwan's dependence on China would force them to follow Beijing's rules. This is why previous leaders tried to treat Taiwan on friendly terms.
Xi could have used the DPP victory as an opportunity to make them more pro-Beijing by being nice and pushing business leaders. But Xi is not a diplomat, he believes that hard power will bring smaller countries in line. But this is where he is and was wrong, no one likes to be bullied around, and his punishment to Taiwan for voting for the "wrong" candidate, only made them anti-China.
From what I can see, Xi is very emotional, single-minded, and does not seem to make rational long-term plans. He didn't intend to turn the world against him or get a massive property bubble, he just didn't think about those problems before they blew up in his face. It was incredibly stupid of Xi to treat Taiwan like crap, but stupid leaders make stupid decisions.
where did you see China treat Taiwan like craps?
One problem with Chinese government officials are that they are not worldly,they are very mainland Chinese,they need to be smoother and diplomatic,like the one they sent to HK,he comes across as too autocractic.
See like US,many Chinese do not get to meet too many foreigners closeup,just like we dont know as much foreign culture,their customs,their language,China and US are both big countries.
China wants Taiwan back,to be part of China,as a province!not buddy buddy as two sovereigns!
BTW,China has amassed 50,000 soldiers by the border with India and India vowed to match same.
Both have plenty of people to spare.
Sure
1. After the Taiwanese voted for the candidate that Beijing does not like, it tried to punish Taiwan by limiting tourism. (didn't work as Taiwan increased tourism from elsewhere)
2. Then China started punishing companies who recognize Taiwan. This was more successful, but it turned the Taiwanese against China.
3. And after covid broke out, China refused to let international organizations cooperate with Taiwan and banned some Taiwanese exports.
4. And then China started to increase its war rhetoric against Taiwan and threatened with practice invasions and warplane military drills.
This happened simultaneously with those Chinese government officials who insulted and threatened Taiwan on social media.
China always had government officials without diplomatic skills, but it has been better in the past, and the hostility is coming together with hostile policies. The real cause is Xi Jinping who believes that China's rise is inevitable and China's hard power will force countries to fall in line. He is starting to notice that his plans are not working out, but instead of changing his strategy, he is just doubling down.
Yes, having Taiwan as a friend would have led to a strategic victory for China, as the Taiwanese would have backed China in the South China Sea and pushed the Americans out of Asia. And, it would no longer be needed to invade Taiwan because Taiwan's dependence on China would force them to follow Beijing's rules. This is why previous leaders tried to treat Taiwan on friendly terms.
I didn't mean treat Taiwan on friendly terms like in early 2010s. I mean treat Taiwan normally as in giving up their retarded claims and moving forward like two neighbouring countries that happen to share a same language, like USA and Canada, Australia and New Zealand, Britain and Ireland, Germany and Austria etc. etc. etc.
But China simply doesn't have that kind of maturity. It's their loss.
where did you see China treat Taiwan like craps?
One problem with Chinese government officials are that they are not worldly,they are very mainland Chinese,they need to be smoother and diplomatic,like the one they sent to HK,he comes across as too autocractic.
This is true; for the most part, CCP officials are used to am environment where they are able to do what they want, without criticism, and with a populous who generally fears angering or contradicting them. Previously, the government did try to put members of the Party who were somewhat more worldly and cosmopolitan into major posts - people who had studied abroad, who had worked with other nations before, and were used to dealing with other cultures.
Under Xi, who wishes for the world to deal with China on Chinese terms, being able to effectively communicate with foreign cultures is less important than unwaveringly asserting China's premacy. Experience and tact is less important than fealty.
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See like US,many Chinese do not get to meet too many foreigners closeup,just like we dont know as much foreign culture,their customs,their language,China and US are both big countries.
This isn't exactly the case in the US... Even in small towns, you can find foreigners and racial/ethnic minorities. My parent's town of 10k people is something like 95% white but there are two Chinese restaurants owned by immigrant families, the liquor stores and one of the markets are owned by Indian immigrant families, etc. Most of the people in town have no issue with it. You have to remember that the US is an immigrant nation, with <47 million foreign-born residents making up about 15% of it's population. 20% of all immigrants in the world are in the US. Contrast this with the fact that, due to Chinese immigration policies and cultural attitudes towards foreigners, only .1% of people in China are foreign born, and a significant number of those are foreign-born children of Chinese citizens.
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China wants Taiwan back,to be part of China,as a province!not buddy buddy as two sovereigns!
BTW,China has amassed 50,000 soldiers by the border with India and India vowed to match same.
Both have plenty of people to spare.
And this is part of the problem... China hasn't been buddy-buddy with Taiwan, it's been belligerent and demanding. If we were talking about a province on the mainland that was totally connected to the rest of China that would be one thing, but this is a self-administered island with a totally different infrastructure, way of life, and culture.
If Xi hadn't changed the status quo to slant towards more bombastic rhetoric and threats, Taiwan wouldn't be as resistant, and the rest of the world wouldn't have taken as much notice as it has. Because the attitude in China is that all people of Chinese descent are Chinese, and that ultimately they belong to China, there isn't much space given to the reality that over time, a group of ethnic Chinese people who are removed from the mainland will create their own culture and way of life that is different from that of China. This was the case with HK and Macau, and Singapore, the many overseas Chinese communities in Asia and the West, and it's certainly the case in Taiwan. The 70+ years that the CCP has changed Chinese society has moved the mainland and Taiwan further apart, and the last few years illustrate that more clearly than ever.
They're banned in the four major cities, Beijing, Shanghai, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen. Also probably in other major cities. It's kinda lame.
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