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Old 09-06-2020, 02:51 AM
 
Location: singapore
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hmm is this trustworthy ? China no interest in displacing US as world leader.

It seems true that China seldom interferes with other Countries affairs unless it affects/threatens them, but they have strong ambitions in my opinion

I have some doubts.. may or may not be truth
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Old 09-06-2020, 03:00 AM
 
Location: Tulsa
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Every country wants to be the world leader if possible.

The problem is, it's not possible.
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Old 09-06-2020, 04:59 AM
 
Location: singapore
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Every country wants to be the world leader if possible.

The problem is, it's not possible.
Not Singapore.

What our government tries in inculcate in us is that, when other countries do well, we benefit too
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Old 09-06-2020, 01:23 PM
 
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https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/ea...nister-wang-yi

hmm is this trustworthy ? China no interest in displacing US as world leader.

It seems true that China seldom interferes with other Countries affairs unless it affects/threatens them, but they have strong ambitions in my opinion

I have some doubts.. may or may not be truth
just ask the south east asians, what happened to them when china had world's most powerful navy in the 18th century vs what happened to them when the germanic tribes had the same thing in the 19th to 20th century
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Old 09-06-2020, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Honolulu
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I would say a definite NO. China has zero ambitions to displace the US on the world stage. What they do want is to be the foremost power in their region. This includes limiting American influence in this area. China has way too many internal problems to have ambitions to rule the world. Historically speaking they've never had the influence Western powers have had worldwide nor have they even attempted to.
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Old 09-06-2020, 03:09 PM
 
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just ask the south east asians, what happened to them when china had world's most powerful navy in the 18th century vs what happened to them when the germanic tribes had the same thing in the 19th to 20th century
Huh? They never had even close to the world's most powerful navy. During that time it was Britain who had the most powerful navy. Even other European nations had more powerful navies at the time than China. They just stuck close to home, whereas other navies were able to operate far from their shores.
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Old 09-06-2020, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Yokohama, Japan
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So far, it doesn't seem like China is super interested in taking over the reigns from the US, at least in the same way. Their government seems to not care much about any human rights abuses or politics of the places they are investing in, they seem to be more interested in financial growth. This contrasts with the US in which social and military influence on other countries is more on the to-do list.

It's possible that China will one day seek to displace the US but as of now they are trying to match the US first, as the US still trumps them in most categories. Their short-term goals include focusing on geopolitical insecurities China has, such as the weak underbelly that is the exposed shipping routes in the South China Seas, and trying to escape the middle-income trap before China's rapidly aging population affects them too much. Their long-term goals are much more unknown, the CCP is not the most transparent to the public with these things.
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Old 09-06-2020, 09:04 PM
 
Location: Tulsa
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So far, it doesn't seem like China is super interested in taking over the reigns from the US, at least in the same way. Their government seems to not care much about any human rights abuses or politics of the places they are investing in, they seem to be more interested in financial growth. This contrasts with the US in which social and military influence on other countries is more on the to-do list.

It's possible that China will one day seek to displace the US but as of now they are trying to match the US first, as the US still trumps them in most categories. Their short-term goals include focusing on geopolitical insecurities China has, such as the weak underbelly that is the exposed shipping routes in the South China Seas, and trying to escape the middle-income trap before China's rapidly aging population affects them too much. Their long-term goals are much more unknown, the CCP is not the most transparent to the public with these things.
China needs to focus on the ongoing food crisis right now. The taking over thing, which has been talked about by conservatives for over a decade isn't looming. Half of Chinese population earn less than 200 USD per month, it hasn't escaped low income trap yet, even talking about middle income trap is too early.
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Old 09-06-2020, 10:37 PM
 
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China main goal is not to displace the US, but to become a peer competitor with the US, and never be in a position where it can get pushed around. The fact that US can cause massive disruption by banning Huawei from using their chips, is proof to the Chinese leadership that they are self-sufficient enough.

China do not want to keep the earlier relationship where american companies design products that get produced in China for almost nothing while america keeps most of the profit. If China manages to produce their high-tech goods in-house, then it will cause a lot of economic problems for the US, because either US will have to buy high-tech goods from China where none of the profit goes to the US. The other alternative is to move manufacturing back to America, but that requires that american salaries to be competitive with Chinese urban salaries or massive tarriffs that will make high-tech goods expensive.

I actually predicted this would happen 10 years ago. I remember talking with my economic professor in New Zealand that claimed trade will make everyone richer. I pointed out at that time that as China and other countries move up the value chain, it would no longer be possible for western countries to export their high value goods to get cheap goods in return. So my conclusion was that western countries, especially countries with large trade deficits, will at some point see their currencies drop and will have to spend more on imported goods.

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Old 09-07-2020, 01:56 AM
 
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one can predict many things and answer many questions about the future by having in depth knowledge of history.

world leader for economics and cultural influences? yes, always been for 5 thousand years

military conquests? no, never been for 5 thousand years.

I mean, you should have figured it out if you think about what they meant by "middle kingdom"
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