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Old 10-07-2020, 12:52 PM
 
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It's not necessarily a political ploy if that's how people actually choose to define themselves... The law allows them to write in their ethnicity, and if enough people choose to do it, no one can really stop them. I would question whether the ads etc actually would reach enough people who cared to do so, tbh.

My experience among Hong Kongers in the US was that they generally had no illusions about their ethnicity being anything but Chinese, regardless of their opinons of the mainland. However, perhaps because of the incidents over the last decade, attitudes have shifted and because they feel that their identity is under threat, they are inclined to use their rights in a sovereign nation to keep as much of that identity intact as possible. If that's the case, then it is their legal right in the US.

I question whether you really "don't care" about their desire to be defined separately or the fact that some org is putting ads on the radio - clearly you, and others no doubt, do. But do you really think of the census as being this sanctified an institution, and this as being inappropriate, when they are actually allowed to do this anyways?
well, I brought it up just to inform OP, but I don't think he's the target audience anyways.

and to answer your question, I would have no problem if some one paying out of their pocket to do this. I would only condemn if the census pays the cantonese local radio to run an ad for census and they went with this.
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Old 10-07-2020, 10:11 PM
 
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well, I brought it up just to inform OP, but I don't think he's the target audience anyways.

and to answer your question, I would have no problem if some one paying out of their pocket to do this. I would only condemn if the census pays the cantonese local radio to run an ad for census and they went with this.
Is there any evidence that this is what happened?
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Old 10-08-2020, 09:03 AM
 
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Today I was thinking most asian people working in Chinatowns identify as ethnic Chinese. Do people say they go to Hongkongtowns and shop at Hong Kong supermarkets? Very few. Soy sauce imported from HK are sold in Chinese supermarkets in western countries, few people in western countries say they buy a bottle of HK soy sauce from Hong Kong supermarkets.

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Old 10-08-2020, 10:43 AM
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...cid=uxbndlbing
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Old 10-09-2020, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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Would you admit you are Han, though? I know most Americans don't even know what Han is, but do you still identify as Han?
I do not know why you are so obsessed with what HKers and Taiwanese people would identify as, nor am I particularly interested in it.

The more you ask me the less I want to answer you.
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Old 10-09-2020, 05:18 PM
 
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People who are racists just treat all Asians the same. Not identifying as a Chinese don't help someone in a racist place.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:01 AM
 
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I know what the HAn are. THey always move south.
Most Americans don't even know what Taiwan is, they just assume everyone around there is Chinese or Japanese which in their heads is kind of the same thing.

PErhaps Japanese are seen as more civilized.

If you tell American you're Taiwanese, they just think oh another chinese fellow from that part of the world.

It happened to a friend of mine from South korea, an American asked her where she was from, she replied south korea and the American goes like.... oh i never really met many Chinese people from south korea.
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Old 10-21-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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It depends on how you frame the question. If you ask them where they're from, they'll differentiate between Hong Kong, Taiwan, and Mainland China. If you ask them their ethnicity, they'll say Chinese.
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Old 10-22-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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https://www.latimes.com/world-nation...ommunist-party
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Old 10-27-2020, 05:50 AM
 
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- If there are "HongKongers", then we should have NewYorkers, Londoneses, Vancouverers etc.

- People in HK are HK Chinese, those from Mainland China are Mainland Chinese, Singaporean Chinese from Singapore, as for Taiwan, everyone knows they're Chinese but because Taiwan has a different constitution (a different Chinese government) so we have no problems calling Taiwanese.

- Those "Hongkongers" are local radicals, frogs grown up in a small well, they don't represent the all citizens of Hong Kong but a bunch of Anti-democratic and Anti-freedom mobs because they attack dissidents in the streets, destroy public facilities and shops that don't stand with them for their 'independence revolution', the same as those radicals in the middle east
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