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Old 10-11-2020, 11:04 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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The interior is nicer. They usually have hardwood floors and everyone has to take their shoes off.

So you walk in socks all day? That sounds very crazy
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Old 10-11-2020, 04:02 PM
 
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So you walk in socks all day? That sounds very crazy
No, they don't walk around in socks all day. They have 'indoor shoes' which they keep in little shoe lockers near the entrance to the school building and which they change into at the start of the school day. Schools with larger campuses spread out over several separate buildings don't always bother with this system as it would be too much hassle for the students to change in and out of the shoes all day but almost all schools with a single school building do.

Visitors to the school are supplied with slippers in which to walk around the school building - not unlike what a visitor to a Japanese house would be given.
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Old 10-11-2020, 04:09 PM
 
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No, they don't walk around in socks all day. They have 'indoor shoes' which they keep in little shoe lockers near the entrance to the school building and which they change into at the start of the school day. Schools with larger campuses spread out over several separate buildings don't always bother with this system as it would be too much hassle for the students to change in and out of the shoes all day but almost all schools with a single school building do.

Visitors to the school are supplied with slippers in which to walk around the school building - not unlike what a visitor to a Japanese house would be given.

That is interesting system,not sure if that could ever work in US with some school having thousands of students in a single school.
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Old 10-11-2020, 05:14 PM
 
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And don't forget teachers and principals in such schools clean their own office too.

Pretty sure principal in my school would have refused to do that. Interesting how different our society is.
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:46 AM
 
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The quality of the American janitorial crew varies. Some janitorial crews are more than cleaners. Some are also part of the building maintenance repairing things like faucets, lights, toilets, doors, and performing routine service checks on various equipment. Majority of the cleaning is done after school while during school cleaning sounds similar to what Japanese students perform daily. The restrooms are cleaned with cleaning solutions that vary from district to district. At best they’re anti microbial cleaners that sterilize and at worst they’re general purpose soap used for cleaning. Not as sterile but it does make a difference. Sadly too many American school systems’ administrators (like school boards for example) focus on what’s visible when the ventilation gets neglected in funds. Even the latest ventilation systems require regular maintenance beyond changing belts and filters. Students would get sick less often if the system was modernized and maintained properly.
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Old 10-15-2020, 03:59 AM
 
Location: Taipei
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Pretty sure principal in my school would have refused to do that. Interesting how different our society is.
In Taiwan the students need to clean teacher's offices. The teachers don't do ****.
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Old 10-16-2020, 09:21 AM
 
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I love that model. While I don't think it would fly in the states (there would be allegations of child abuse), I think it would be good for the children and it would save school districts on janitorial salaries.
In Irvine, California, in 2008, tardy students were made to pick up trash during lunch. Things may have changed but back then it was fine.

What's interesting is that in many states corporal punishment in schools is still perfectly legal and practiced widely so long as parental consent is given. Yes, corporal punishment as in paddling the kid. Even in "conservative" Asian countries like Taiwan corporal punishment in school is no longer used. Red states are actually, in many respects, more conservative than Taiwan.

So if corporal punishment is still widely practiced in many American states at school, then why would it be so controversial if the school organized a clean up the school day every month or so? The only reason would be if they made it mandatory and parents had no way to opt their kids out. But there's always controversy when schools make anything mandatory.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:03 PM
 
Location: San Diego CA
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In Irvine, California, in 2008, tardy students were made to pick up trash during lunch. Things may have changed but back then it was fine.

What's interesting is that in many states corporal punishment in schools is still perfectly legal and practiced widely so long as parental consent is given. Yes, corporal punishment as in paddling the kid. Even in "conservative" Asian countries like Taiwan corporal punishment in school is no longer used. Red states are actually, in many respects, more conservative than Taiwan.

So if corporal punishment is still widely practiced in many American states at school, then why would it be so controversial if the school organized a clean up the school day every month or so? The only reason would be if they made it mandatory and parents had no way to opt their kids out. But there's always controversy when schools make anything mandatory.

When my wife went to school in Singapore years ago corporal punishment was the norm. Schools had an officially designated discipline master. For a variety of reasons male students only could be paraded in front of the student body and caned on the buttocks. Number of strokes of the cane determined by the severity of the offense. Girls got off a little easier, rapped across the knuckles with a ruler or hit with a well thrown blackboard eraser.
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Old 10-16-2020, 01:28 PM
 
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When my wife went to school in Singapore years ago corporal punishment was the norm. Schools had an officially designated discipline master. For a variety of reasons male students only could be paraded in front of the student body and caned on the buttocks. Number of strokes of the cane determined by the severity of the offense. Girls got off a little easier, rapped across the knuckles with a ruler or hit with a well thrown blackboard eraser.
Yes, Singapore is known to be very archaic even by Asian standards. But Taiwan has outlawed corporal punishment in schools. Meanwhile, about twenty American states still regularly use corporal punishment in PUBLIC schools on BOTH boys AND girls. Something that has been outlawed in Taiwan.
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