US-China relations during the presidency of G. Trumen

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by maomao

I disagree on the point on the japanese part, KMT still have all of their best generals available after the end of WWII. Not to mention all the trainings they receive from the US. KMT has a navy and a airforce, while the communists have none of that.

I would argue that the US actually helped the communist more than the japanese did. As discussed in this topic, the US first tried to get both side to sign a treaty and stop fighting. That actually bought the communist valuable time as the KMT was not able to outright crush them right at the end of the war had the US not stepped in.

You know that the US flew Mao into nanjing to meet with Chiang at the end of WW2 right? who is stopping Chiang from killing or jailing Mao right then and there? US of A of course.

Soviet Union too. There were several instances where both Mao and Chiang had the opportunity to kill each other, the 1936 Xian Incident being one of them, but the Soviets intervened. Likewise the Soviet Union held diplomatic relations with Nanjing all the way up to 1949 and did not hand over the best weapons to the Chinese Communists that had been captured from the Japanese.

[maomao]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

Soviet Union too. There were several instances where both Mao and Chiang had the opportunity to kill each other, the 1936 Xian Incident being one of them, but the Soviets intervened. Likewise the Soviet Union held diplomatic relations with Nanjing all the way up to 1949 and did not hand over the best weapons to the Chinese Communists that had been captured from the Japanese.

no, mao never had a chance to kill chiang.

xian incident was chiang's own general kidnapping chiang to force chiang to unite all effort to fight the japanese. that general was then forever jailed by chiang and even brought over to taiwan and in confinement till the day he died.

[Urban Peasant]

Originally Posted by maomao

no, mao never had a chance to kill chiang.

xian incident was chiang's own general kidnapping chiang to force chiang to unite all effort to fight the japanese. that general was then forever jailed by chiang and even brought over to taiwan and in confinement till the day he died.

It has not ever been fully proven but there were rumors that Zhang Xue Liang secretly wanted to collaborate with the Chinese Communists either as a true communist compatriot or at least to use them to regain the lands he lost to the Japanese. There was no doubt Zhang was not a supporter of Chiang but he might also have had been influenced by the Communists. To most historians, Zhang's kidnapping of Chiang was simply to force his hand to confront the Japanese but there are a few who theorize the whole Xian incident was an attempt on Chiang's life and was aborted only by CCP and/or CPSU intervention. If Mao did not want Chiang did, others like Zhu De possible did. Some historians credit Stalin for saving Chiang, others think the Soviet Union did not play a significant role at all in freeing Chiang from captivity. I don't think we're ever going to find a straightforward and truthful answer since the incident happened over 80 years ago.

Here's a long essay that compares the interpretations of several historians about the Xian Incident.

https://www.nature.com/articles/palcomms20143

It is interesting to see how this incident and subsequent events act as a prelude to the time period the O.P. is asking about.

You are right that Zhang was put under house arrest after the Xian Incident and brought over to Taiwan in 1949 but he was actually freed after Chiang's death in 1975 and died in Hawaii.

[maomao]

Originally Posted by Urban Peasant

It has not ever been fully proven but there were rumors that Zhang Xue Liang secretly wanted to collaborate with the Chinese Communists either as a true communist compatriot or at least to use them to regain the lands he lost to the Japanese. There was no doubt Zhang was not a supporter of Chiang but he might also have had been influenced by the Communists. To most historians, Zhang's kidnapping of Chiang was simply to force his hand to confront the Japanese but there are a few who theorize the whole Xian incident was an attempt on Chiang's life and was aborted only by CCP and/or CPSU intervention. If Mao did not want Chiang did, others like Zhu De possible did. Some historians credit Stalin for saving Chiang, others think the Soviet Union did not play a significant role at all in freeing Chiang from captivity. I don't think we're ever going to find a straightforward and truthful answer since the incident happened over 80 years ago.

Here's a long essay that compares the interpretations of several historians about the Xian Incident.

https://www.nature.com/articles/palcomms20143

It is interesting to see how this incident and subsequent events act as a prelude to the time period the O.P. is asking about.

You are right that Zhang was put under house arrest after the Xian Incident and brought over to Taiwan in 1949 but he was actually freed after Chiang's death in 1975 and died in Hawaii.

yes, that incident indeed changed china's history, but unless there are proven record of contact between the soviet and zhang, all these are just theories.

zhang is the son of the warlord and their land was taken by the japanese (japanese also assassinated his father), as for not being a fan of chiang, most of chiang's general hates chiang. zhang on the other hand actually view chiang as a good leader. zhang is also a good family friend of chiang's wife and her family.

that's why zhang never had the intention of harming chiang, he wants chiang to lead china to fight the japanese.

I would suggest to look up on John Leighton Stuart and George C. Marshall as they played a major role for the US in mediate between the kmt and the communist