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Old 11-11-2020, 06:56 AM
 
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The defeat of a group of Sinologists at the US State Department in the late 1940s and early 1950s. in connection with the establishment of the PRC. Where can I find more information about this event? pls help
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Old 11-11-2020, 07:28 AM
 
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Google is your friend. This is also the wrong forum. I've been studying China post WWII and it's confusing when you get below the surface.

Good luck.
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Old 11-11-2020, 07:41 AM
 
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I just don't know where to start
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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I would start with the "China Hands." Americans in China during WWII and its Revolution.

Recognized China Hands

O. Edmund Clubb[17]
John Paton Davies, Jr.[18]
John K. Fairbank[19]
Owen Lattimore[20]
Raymond P. Ludden
John F. Melby
John S. Service[21]
Edgar Snow
John Carter Vincent[22]
Theodore White
James K. Penfield
Fulton Freeman
Philip D. Sprouse
John Emmerson
Arthur R. Ringwalt
Edward E. Rice
David D. Barrrett

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_...rld%20War%20II.

Theodore White was an American journalist who wrote the following books abound China

Thunder Out of China (with Annalee Jacoby) (1946) reprinted Da Capo, 1980 ISBN 0-30680128-0
The Stilwell Papers (1948) by Joseph W. Stilwell, Theodore H. White (Ed.), online
Fire in the Ashes: Europe in Mid Century (1953) online

Also Theodore H. White at large: the best of his magazine writing, 1939-1986, Theodore Harold White, ed. Edward T. Thompson, Pantheon Books, 1992, ISBN 978-0-679-41635-7

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_H._White
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Old 11-12-2020, 06:50 PM
 
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I just don't know where to start

Had it not for the pandemic, I would suggest the main branch of a local library. You need to read some some good documentary books to get in-depth knowledge. I used to love reading about the fall of the Chinese Republic during Truman's Administration whenever at the library when I was in high school and college. In addition to what Yorktown Gal suggested, Tang Tsou and Seymour Topping are also good writers who wrote about the Sino-American politics of that time. I sincerely doubt you will find much online.
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Old 11-12-2020, 08:44 PM
 
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The defeat of a group of Sinologists at the US State Department in the late 1940s and early 1950s. in connection with the establishment of the PRC. Where can I find more information about this event? pls help
Try youtube, there are many docs on this. How the US initially tries to diffuse the tension between the communist and the kmt, then inadvertently allowed the communist to win when chiang supported the wrong candidate in the trumen vs duey election
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Old 11-12-2020, 09:17 PM
 
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Some senators went to China and concluded Mao is a friendly agrarian reformer.
You know the Communists got a lot of help and support from the Russia,after they took over China,they spent many years repaying the debts,trainload of cloth,pencils,perfume,graphite going to Moscow.
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Old 11-13-2020, 02:59 PM
 
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Some senators went to China and concluded Mao is a friendly agrarian reformer.
You know the Communists got a lot of help and support from the Russia,after they took over China,they spent many years repaying the debts,trainload of cloth,pencils,perfume,graphite going to Moscow.

kicking us in the butt since 1947
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Old 11-14-2020, 05:38 AM
 
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Whenever I want to do historical research regarding the US State Department, I normally use the Office of the Historian at history.state.gov

Click on “Historical Documents”. Then choose the administration you want to read about it. The amount of information available is staggering.

Just curious, does anybody else use this website? If so, what did you think about it?

I’m not sure it would even answer such a specific question as what the OP asked, but I think it would be a good place to start and then branch out from there.

You know, it’s funny how I even got interested in this type of thing. When I was in the military, the base historian had way too many documents and books to store in his office, so he asked if he could place some in our vault. We had the room, so they brought all their stuff down. Military operations, and information from meetings and briefings over 70 years. Boxes and boxes of papers. I asked them if it was ok if I read some of the books and they said it was ok to do so. Talk about fascinating stuff! The things they did back in the 1940’s and 1950’s and the way they thought about things are very different than today.

The State Department has a lot of crossover with the DOD in regards to historical overseas involvement with countries.
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Old 11-14-2020, 06:41 AM
 
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It is amazing how China finally embraced capitalism and abandon socialism-for many years,the Chinese lived in poverty,the government rationed not just food but fabric,1/2 yard of cotton per year per person,14 ounces of meat per month ,or may be 12 ounces as Chinese have their won weight system.
Most households do not have telephone,when it finally installed phone booth on the street,people lined up early to make calls.
There is hardly any night life,people wil mill around the street window shopping,see that nice TV SET in the window,it would take one year 's salary to buy one.
How time has changed !
During famine,people were peeling tree barks to add to their meals,some went to the beach and swallow sand .
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We just assume stores are always stocked with food,years ago I was in SE Asia,there is a report that Thai students after school lunch will all go into a forest nearby,at first they dont understand why,then they found out they were still hungry and they were looking for certain berries to fill their stomach/
In some of those Carribean islands where they make meager $$ cutting sugarcanes,you see them cooking something outdoor on a stove,you remove the lid and found nothing inside but just boiling water and a piece green stems picked from nearby field.
The workers will get together on a pay day and share a prostitute,spreading STD/AIDS.
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