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Old 11-16-2020, 12:00 AM
 
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Some of the Youtubers that you talk about is from Canada or the United States, how come they are not in jail?

First amendment?
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:04 AM
 
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First amendment?
We are talking about pro-China Youtubers in China.

Some of them are from countries that have bad relationships with China, are very public, and still none of them have gotten arrested.

Some of them even admitted on camera breaking Chinese visa laws and they have still not been arrested. If they are not even willing to charge them for real crimes, then why should I be worried that they might come after me for non-crimes. It is just absurd, and it is this lack of nuance that prevents you from influencing anyone except non-Chinese who don't live in China.

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Old 11-16-2020, 01:24 AM
 
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That is right. Norway was on Chinas bad side, and I was in China during that period. I didn't notice anything.

Some of the Youtubers that you talk about is from Canada or the United States, how come they are not in jail?

The reason is because you are full of ****. You would love to see China arresting any of us for a political reason, but it will never happen.
It probably wasn't bad enough.
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Old 11-16-2020, 11:37 AM
 
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We are talking about pro-China Youtubers in China.

Some of them are from countries that have bad relationships with China, are very public, and still none of them have gotten arrested.

Some of them even admitted on camera breaking Chinese visa laws and they have still not been arrested. If they are not even willing to charge them for real crimes, then why should I be worried that they might come after me for non-crimes. It is just absurd, and it is this lack of nuance that prevents you from influencing anyone except non-Chinese who don't live in China.

They should come for you and harvest your organs. You're a bad person with authoritarian tendencies and bad karma.


WHite CLaw!
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Old 11-16-2020, 12:35 PM
 
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Why has China been united for so much longer than Europe/Africa/America/Middle east?

I think it's because China has been a civilization for over 10,000 years and it's figured out what works best for itself after all that time. What other civilizations can say the same thing for their selves?

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Old 11-16-2020, 09:24 PM
 
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Why has China been united for so much longer than Europe/Africa/America/Middle east?

I think it's because China has been a civilization for over 10,000 years and it's figured out what works best for itself after all that time. What other civilizations can say the same thing for their selves?

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it's more like half of that like 5,000 years, but to put things into perspective, imagine if the roman empire is able to fend off the barbarians and hold the empire unified together. Instead, so much of the western world descends from the barbarians instead of the noble romans.
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Old 11-17-2020, 01:49 PM
 
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China 'used secret microwave pulse weapon to cook Indian soldiers alive' and force them into retreat in Himalayan border battle




https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-soldiers.html
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Old 11-18-2020, 08:28 AM
 
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China's interesting in retaining a concept of a "China proper" and a drive towards unification for a long period of history. In contrast to nations in Europe that have heads of government self-describe themselves as the inheritor of the Roman Empire, subsequent Chinese dynasties have actually been able to create nation-states that encompass what are generally the larger heartland portions of previous large Chinese nations. In practice though, that area has been split up many, many times, and many of the dynasties that are considered part of the "mainline" of Chinese nation-states were of vastly different sizes and scopes.

It's imperfect, but here's a helpful gif from wikipedia that gives you an idea of such:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Dynasties.gif


The cause of this unity probably has a lot to do with geographic features where there's relatively little in large peninsulas, islands, broad deserts and long, vast mountain ranges dividing up what's usually been the heartland of Chinese dynasties and meanwhile there is quite a bit of arable land. You'll also recall that other notable East Asian nation-states in history are often along those substantial geographic divisions (such as Japan on its islands or Korea on a sizable, hilly peninsula). That being said, even in "China proper" there has been a lot of infighting and regional differences as can be seen in the constant and many splits the area has had since its first large unified state with the Qin dynasty.

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Old 11-18-2020, 02:30 PM
 
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China's interesting in retaining a concept of a "China proper" and a drive towards unification for a long period of history. In contrast to nations in Europe that have heads of government self-describe themselves as the inheritor of the Roman Empire, subsequent Chinese dynasties have actually been able to create nation-states that encompass what are generally the larger heartland portions of previous large Chinese nations. In practice though, that area has been split up many, many times, and many of the dynasties that are considered part of the "mainline" of Chinese nation-states were of vastly different sizes and scopes.

It's imperfect, but here's a helpful gif from wikipedia that gives you an idea of such:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped..._Dynasties.gif


The cause of this unity probably has a lot to do with geographic features where there's relatively little in large peninsulas, islands, broad deserts and long, vast mountain ranges dividing up what's usually been the heartland of Chinese dynasties and meanwhile there is quite a bit of arable land. You'll also recall that other notable East Asian nation-states in history are often along those substantial geographic divisions (such as Japan on its islands or Korea on a sizable, hilly peninsula). That being said, even in "China proper" there has been a lot of infighting and regional differences as can be seen in the constant and many splits the area has had since its first large unified state with the Qin dynasty.



notice that the Han always move south
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Old 11-18-2020, 06:47 PM
 
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That being said, even in "China proper" there has been a lot of infighting and regional differences as can be seen in the constant and many splits the area has had since its first large unified state with the Qin dynasty.
If only it had stayed split in the 20st century lol. That would have saved so much of our trouble.
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