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I think a major difference is, China focuses on improving itself, while the US focuses on sabotaging others.
Where do you even get that from, sabotage? Or should I even ask as I am sure the response will be some sort of pick and choose collage of misinformation. Seriously, can you even engage in an objective discussion in this forum without trying to continuously be on the defense of China? Relax for once, stop being on the defense guard all the time. Leave "the party" of PRC robots and join the real party - let loose.
I was trying to be fair in my response, every country work to their self interest; as they should to meet the best interests of their citizens. Every country spy's, American allies as well as competitors spy on us. It's part of statecraft. I don't really have problem with China using a honey trap for US politicians. It's more like "shame on us" for falling for it and not having the proper countermeasures in place.
But if you call stealing technology as "focusing on improving itself" well what can I say, it does do that. But I would think it's ultimately self-defeating that they can't develop modern technology themselves. Fortunately the US has no need to do this.
Where do you even get that from, sabotage? Or should I even ask as I am sure the response will be some sort of pick and choose collage of misinformation. Seriously, can you even engage in an objective discussion in this forum without trying to continuously be on the defense of China? Relax for once, stop being on the defense guard all the time. Leave "the party" of PRC robots and join the real party - let loose.
I was trying to be fair in my response, every country work to their self interest; as they should to meet the best interests of their citizens. Every country spy's, American allies as well as competitors spy on us. It's part of statecraft. I don't really have problem with China using a honey trap for US politicians. It's more like "shame on us" for falling for it and not having the proper countermeasures in place.
But if you call stealing technology as "focusing on improving itself" well what can I say, it does do that. But I would think it's ultimately self-defeating that they can't develop modern technology themselves. Fortunately the US has no need to do this.
Yet, bettafish works, lives, and makes his money in the US. He probably might be stealing technology for pooh bear.
the PRC cannot create because the CCP do not tolerate the free exchange of ideas as you can see with the takeover of HK and the occupation of tibet. This stifles innovation. What was the last great invention from china? Toilet paper!
Yet, bettafish works, lives, and makes his money in the US. He probably might be stealing technology for pooh bear.
the PRC cannot create because the CCP do not tolerate the free exchange of ideas as you can see with the takeover of HK and the occupation of tibet. This stifles innovation. What was the last great invention from china? Toilet paper!
Confucius says also to obey so that does not help. They are like obedient robots.
HAHA...toilet paper.
Well now, I have to defend China however. Ever been to the Shanghai Museam near peoples square? I've been there twice, it never ceases to amaze me of the sophistication of China back when Europe was in the midst of it's dark ages and just struggling to survive, back to really the start of civilization. Just amazing art work - sculptures, ceramics, calligraphy.
I do like China, I don't like what communism has done to that country however. The people deserve better.
HAHA.
Well now, I have to defend China. Ever been to the Shanghai Museam near peoples square? I've been there twice, it never ceases to amaze me of the sophistication of China back when Europe was in the midst of it's dark ages and just struggling to survive, back to really the start of civilization. Just amazing art work - sculptures, ceramics, calligraphy.
makes you wonder why China stalled technologically
makes you wonder why China stalled technologically
maybe it was too centralized
It's a topic that deserves a thread of it's own it would be so complex - it's size was part of it's downfall. In earlier times China was divided by warlords and invaded by tribes from the north, culminating into 3 kingdoms for a time and some terrible wars, but also generating amazing cultural and scientific competition. By the time of the Qing dynasty, really the Ming dynasty, it was one large kingdom. The size was part of it's downfall - no need for competition because it was one huge kingdom, no need to advance with an industrial revolution because the labor force was so huge that human labor would always be cheaper than machines. There were also political and cultural influences, even religious that caused the rejection of scientific theory and the reliance on the metaphysical.
By the time China was ready to industrialize you had western powers knocking on its doors. No navy or warships? Yeah, here comes the British Empire with the latest modern ship of the lines to pick you apart. By that time it was too late for China.
We really do need a separate topic on it...above it just the tip of the iceberg.
makes you wonder why China stalled technologically
maybe it was too centralized
It’s more of a tunnel vision approach to development. That’s what it was like in the USSR and other socialist countries at the time. The government controls the means of production and does everything in its power to push forth its agenda. Only by being economically successful, can it hold its grip on power. Ideas that go against these basic concepts tend to be squashed.
When Metallica went to Shanghai, they had to have their setlist approved by government. One of their most popular songs, Master of Puppets, was excluded as there was concern over the underlying message behind it. Ironically though, the song is about drugs and not about dealing with an oppressive government.
Where do you even get that from, sabotage? Or should I even ask as I am sure the response will be some sort of pick and choose collage of misinformation. Seriously, can you even engage in an objective discussion in this forum without trying to continuously be on the defense of China? Relax for once, stop being on the defense guard all the time. Leave "the party" of PRC robots and join the real party - let loose.
How many foreign governments have the CIA destroyed, or tried to destroy?
The US is actively supporting "movements", "revolutions" and coups in foreign countries.
You didn't know that?
It’s more of a tunnel vision approach to development. That’s what it was like in the USSR and other socialist countries at the time. The government controls the means of production and does everything in its power to push forth its agenda. Only by being economically successful, can it hold its grip on power. Ideas that go against these basic concepts tend to be squashed.
When Metallica went to Shanghai, they had to have their setlist approved by government. One of their most popular songs, Master of Puppets, was excluded as there was concern over the underlying message behind it. Ironically though, the song is about drugs and not about dealing with an oppressive government.
It just needs time. China started to open only in the 1980s, and China's science and technology development is already by far the best among all developing countries.
I work in the AI field. The top international conferences have 1/3 submissions from China, about the same as the US. Many US submissions have authors with Chinese names.
Yet, bettafish works, lives, and makes his money in the US. He probably might be stealing technology for pooh bear.
the PRC cannot create because the CCP do not tolerate the free exchange of ideas as you can see with the takeover of HK and the occupation of tibet. This stifles innovation. What was the last great invention from china? Toilet paper!
Confucius says also to obey so that does not help. They are like obedient robots.
On the one hand, you idiots say CCP changed traditional Chinese culture; but on the other hand, you idiots say Confucius has an impact.
So can you make yourself coherent before releasing your BS?
Obedient? LMAO Anyone who is familiar with Asia knows Japanese and Koreans are much more obedient than Chinese. And that does not seem to prevent them achieving economic success.
It just needs time. China started to open only in the 1980s, and China's science and technology development is already by far the best among all developing countries.
I work in the AI field. The top international conferences have 1/3 submissions from China, about the same as the US. Many US submissions have authors with Chinese names.
Are you transferring technology to the CCP? If so, we will have to report you to the FBI.
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On the one hand, you idiots say CCP changed traditional Chinese culture; but on the other hand, you idiots say Confucius has an impact.
So can you make yourself coherent before releasing your BS?
Can you stop putting uighers, tibeteans, and political dissadisents in concentration camps, erasing HK democracy, trying to invade tawain, and stop eating everything that turns it back to heaven?
Can you make sure yourself stop supporting authoritarian regimes?
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Obedient? LMAO Anyone who is familiar with Asia knows Japanese and Koreans are much more obedient than Chinese. And that does not seem to prevent them achieving economic success.
don't deflect. THis is a no spin zone.
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