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China can give NK nukes. maybe also send a nuke powered submarine to the Carribeans.
US stills dreams it is the only super power in the world? It cannot even influence canada
Ahh someone comes in with a separate agenda out of nowhere. Welcome to the forum. Let me guess, you frequently post in the P&C forum? Your post just has that "hit and run" nonsensical style.
No one is talking nukes. Taiwan doesn't need it since we have it. We are talking conventional tactical weapons to use for defensive purposes. China essentially already has given NK intercontinental ballistic missile technology which is bad enough but even China doesn't want the fat guy in North Korea to have nukes.
The US is a superpower shared absolutely with China and somewhat with the EU, Russia, Brazil and India maybe (based on economic as well as military strength). No one I think argues that. One thing for sure - the list does not include Canada.
With that in mind, the US does influence Canada foreign decisions to some extent as we do the rest of the western world, the reason being is that they are living under the umbrella of United States protection. Weather you choose to believe it or not is up to you. When Canada can match the US trillion dollar a year defense budget, they can start making independent foreign policy decisions, or they are also free to align with China and become a vassal state to that country.
Honestly I wish we had it. We could be like Israel and bully other countries lol.
Well Israel is "suspected" of having nukes. They have neither confirmed or denied. Which of course means they have it.
That being said, Israel has suffered at least four wars/invasions from the Arab powers since inception, and operate, because of the small size of their country, under the premise that they can't afford to lose one war. Important when the enemy has as an operating principle to "wipe Israel off the map" and have dealt with a situation in the last century where a certain European country wanted to systematically exterminate every single living person identified as jewish.
Let's face it, Taiwan has never been faced with PRC invasion. Both sides are happy with the status quo. When the status quo is disturbed, PRC gets nervous.
Nope, nukes is big time. You don't want it. PRC would never allow it, it would be the Cuban missile crises in reverse.
Well Israel is "suspected" of having nukes. They have neither confirmed or denied. Which of course means they have it.
That being said, Israel has suffered at least four wars/invasions from the Arab powers since inception, and operate, because of the small size of their country, under the premise that they can't afford to lose one war. Important when the enemy has as an operating principle to "wipe Israel off the map" and have dealt with a situation in the last century where a certain European country wanted to systematically exterminate every single living person identified as jewish.
Let's face it, Taiwan has never been faced with PRC invasion. Both sides are happy with the status quo. When the status quo is disturbed, PRC gets nervous.
Nope, nukes is big time. You don't want it. PRC would never allow it, it would be the Cuban missile crises in reverse.
We are not happy with the status quo. It’s merely tolerated because China threatens to invade if we change that. Believe me it’s not fun when your country always gets called “, province of China” or “Taipei, China” or Chinese Taipei on websites in all sorts of international capacities, and it’s even less fun when other countries treat you like trash because they are spineless ****s (e.g. Germany).
We are not happy with the status quo. It’s merely tolerated because China threatens to invade if we change that. Believe me it’s not fun when your country always gets called “, province of China” or “Taipei, China” or Chinese Taipei on websites in all sorts of international capacities, and it’s even less fun when other countries treat you like trash because they are spineless ****s (e.g. Germany).
I do sympathize my friend, I don't have a solution. The west does have some leverage but not enough for this issue I am afraid. Trump signed the TAIPEI act last year (Taiwan Allies International Protection and Enhancement Initiative Act), to increase the scope of relations between Taiwan and the US. PRC of course opposed it and we told them to take a flying leap. Maybe that's the solution - pushing PRC with small steps.
We are not happy with the status quo. It’s merely tolerated because China threatens to invade if we change that. Believe me it’s not fun when your country always gets called “, province of China” or “Taipei, China” or Chinese Taipei on websites in all sorts of international capacities, and it’s even less fun when other countries treat you like trash because they are spineless ****s (e.g. Germany).
Well hindsight is 20-20, but the best thing Taiwan could have done back in 1949 was push for recognition as just Taiwan. The US would have gone for it back then as hostilities with the PRC were just beginning. Instead the Kuomintang insisted that it be known as China as it still had delusional dreams of re conquering the mainland. Time went by, things turned the PRC's way both politically and economically, and now there is no chance in hell that China would now agree to independence for Taiwan. That ship has sailed.
Instead, Taiwan has to fight a battle that it will eventually lose in the long term to remain independent. As China's economic might continues to grow, I dont see how Taiwan will be able to continue to resist. China already makes up a big chunk of their trade. Taiwanese companies have their biggest investments in China. Taiwan is for all intents and purposes an economic colony of China already. They just dont realize it yet. The US has its own problems and will not be willing to go to war for Taiwan. And if in 50 years China has truly overtaken the US to become the most powerful economy in the world, then it wont be up to the US anyway.
Well hindsight is 20-20, but the best thing Taiwan could have done back in 1949 was push for recognition as just Taiwan. The US would have gone for it back then as hostilities with the PRC were just beginning. Instead the Kuomintang insisted that it be known as China as it still had delusional dreams of re conquering the mainland. Time went by, things turned the PRC's way both politically and economically, and now there is no chance in hell that China would now agree to independence for Taiwan. That ship has sailed.
Instead, Taiwan has to fight a battle that it will eventually lose in the long term to remain independent. As China's economic might continues to grow, I dont see how Taiwan will be able to continue to resist. China already makes up a big chunk of their trade. Taiwanese companies have their biggest investments in China. Taiwan is for all intents and purposes an economic colony of China already. They just dont realize it yet. The US has its own problems and will not be willing to go to war for Taiwan. And if in 50 years China has truly overtaken the US to become the most powerful economy in the world, then it wont be up to the US anyway.
Yeah yeah yeah, heard that before like a thousand times. China is probably at its most influential now in 2021, and Taiwan is also doing the best since more than a decade.
About the trade, China relies heavily on Taiwan's export as well and around 1/3 of the largest Chinese companies in trade are actually Taiwanese subsidiaries.
And China's demograhic will not allow it to overtake the US. China's population will start shrinking very soon, the 2020 birth rate is well below 1% and will never recover. China estimates their natality will be below 10 million in no time, which is at the same level as Japan, Korea, and Taiwan. They basically reinstated the one-child policy with a massive real estate bubble. Average Chinese salary is like 1/8 of average US salary but property prices are much higher in China.
Also, for an economy with 10k GDP per capita, the growth rate is subpar. When Japan and Asian Tigers' GDP per capita was at that level all were growing in double digits or close to double digits, China's growth rate is about half of that. Not to mention, the global shipping routes and the global finance system are controlled by Washington. If the US deems it necessary you can finish China in a blink.
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