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Old 04-18-2021, 09:03 PM
 
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you understand that not all Southeast Asians are genetically similar, what distinguishes it is the spark from others genetic other examples of ethnic groups in Indonesia such as Javanese their genetics are between Austroasiatic and Austronesian people while the Tai people are Austroasiatic, Austronesian, Tai Kadai then Malay Malay Malaysian between Austronesian, Austroasiatic, South Asian this is what makes a little difference and you see like Sundanese, Dayaks, Malays Sumatran (Palembang), Javanese their have similar DNA to each other, but the difference between Dayaks and Malays Indonesian has a little bit of Hmong splash. Look at Filipinos genetic and they are almost comprehensive in Taiwan Aborigine , Indonesian, Cambodia, Oceania ( Austronesian genes are pure Indonesian from the Mentawai Ethnic in Sumatra ) as well as the indigenous peoples of Southeast Asia. And you see Austroasiatics actually it's not Cambodian but mostly ethnic tribes in Thailand and Yunnan South China, while Cambodian is a mixture of Austroasiatic, Tai Kadai and South Asia, your brain must be observant to see and analyze me who is stupid what you are stupid
and would you be proud with faces like East Asian while in Thailand there have tons of Southeast Asian faces and many Han chines too .. you think i've never been to Bangkok and see people there?
in Indonesia also has tons poeple of faces of East Asian and in general here we Indonesian have never had to make something unique for example in Jakarta and go to the CP, Grand Indonesia, Glodok etc almost 90% mostly people "East Asia Face" ( mostly Han Chinese there not to mention the regions and areas that are other
Who care about your" personal opinion" ???

Every thing you been claiming up until now are all aboutt "This is my opinion and I think it is the truth". You never show any real historical and scientific "facts" to prove your point.

Why should other people "trust your personal experience"?? Why ??

If you want to prove your claim, show us real historical and scientific facts okay?


I can also play the same card as you and claim that "I also have been to Indonesia and most people there look like Negritos".

Indonesian people


Are you going to believe in "my personal opinion"??
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:24 PM
 
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even Genetic companies that are well known and accurate in separating Indonesians from Austronesians and include Indonesian in one group with Cambodians, Thais, Myamnars, and Laotians ... this is because there is genetic

Look at Vietnamese they are in the same group as Chinese. The faces of the Vietnamese cannot be fooled, they have a Chinese appearance compared to other Southeast Asians
Where is this the so-called "well known and accurate Genetic companies" that you keep mentioning?? Show us, okay?? Because you never show us at all.

There are multiple genetic research of the genetic relationship between Thailand and Vietnam already.

And all of them are showing the same story that neither Vietnamese or Thai are genetically more related to East Asian more than one another, but both are related to East Asian on the similar level.












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Old 04-18-2021, 09:25 PM
 
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Who care about your" personal opinion" ???

Every thing you been claiming up until now are all aboutt "This is my opinion and I think it is the truth". You never show any real historical and scientific "facts" to prove your point.

Why should other people "trust your personal experience"?? Why ??

If you want to prove your claim, show us real historical and scientific facts okay?


I can also play the same card as you and claim that "I also have been to Indonesia and most people there look like Negritos".

Indonesian people


Are you going to believe in "my personal opinion"??
Indonesia is a melting pot of a mixture of Southeast Asian, East Asian and Black, especially indigenous tribes and eastern Indonesia
We are always proud because Indonesia also has a negrito population, which is more unique than other Southeast Asians, which almost generally have the features on the faces of Southeast Asian except Vietnam
When asked why Indonesians are like Africans I will answer yes which is because society is very diverse and that's something that is unique from our society
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:27 PM
 
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Where is this the so-called "well known and accurate Genetic companies" that you keep mentioning?? Show us, okay?? Because you never show us at all.

There are multiple genetic research of the genetic relationship between Thailand and Vietnam already.

And all of them are showing the same story that neither Vietnamese or Thai are genetically more related to East Asian more than one another, but both are related to East Asian on the similar level.



as I have explained You must understand before knowing about Southeast Asian genetics
Tai is : Austroasiatic , Austronesian and Tai Kadaic
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:38 PM
 
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Look at Vietnamese they are in the same group as Chinese. The faces of the Vietnamese cannot be fooled, they have a Chinese appearance compared to other Southeast Asians
This proven that you absolutely have zero knowledge about the history of Asia.

Because the real historical fact if be go back to the beginning is Vietnamese were originated in Southeast Asia but Thai were originated in Northeast Asia.

Vietnamese was originally been living in Southeast Asia for at least over 4500 years now.

On another hand Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people didn't migrates into Sourtheast Asia until much later in the history, which is 700-1000 years ago(10 to 13 century) during the Mongol expansion of Asia.

There are a few different time period I need to point out here....

Source of Information.
https://www.timemaps.com/history/china-2500bc/

1. 4500 years ago

The Han-Chinese used to lives further north before they push South.

2. 3500 years ago

Han-Chinese was originated near Korea and Manchuria. The areas of Southern China wasn't originally belong to them.

3. 2200 years ago

They continue to expand Southward and invades Southern Yangtze lands from Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people as well other Baiyue people who also lived there too.

4. 2100 years ago

The Han dynasty finally reached South lands which belong to Baiyue people.

Thai/Tai ancestors chosen to abandon the land and starts to migrates Westward into the mountains/high land areas(refused to be occupied by the Han-Chinese).

Vietnamese ancestors chosen to continue to lives on their land(and accepted the occupation of the Han-Chinese) and this is when the Han-Chinese colonizer starts to "brainwash" the local Vietnamese to starts practice the Sinosphere(Confucianism) culture.

The occupation of Han-Chinese will continue non stop for another 1000 years until Vietnam was able to gain it's independence.

5. Thai/Tai(Tai-kadai) people continues to stayed in the mountainous areas of Southern China for another 1000 years and didn't migrates into Southeast Asia until around 10-13 century(700 to 1000 years ago).

Here is a video that uses map to explains about all of the historical events in Asia which included migration/rise of power/fall of power of all civilization in Asia started since 3000 BC (5000 years ago) up until 2019. (Everything I am talking about until now are exactly corresponds to this)


6. Thai/Tai people was always independent from the Han-Chinese and never been "directly occupied" by them. Everytime when the Northern Han invasion comes, Thai/Tai people will always abandon the land and move forward to find the next land(which finally caused them to end up here in Thailand today).

Vietnamese people was "directly occupied" as a proviencce of the Han-Chinese empire for 1000 years. Vietnamese people always "insisted" to stay where they are on their own land and refuses to move away when the invasion forces comes(the Vietnamese still where they are today, even after 4500 years has passed). Vietnam was occupied by the Han dynasty weren't able to gain it's independence until the collapse of the Tang dynasty.

So what is the conclusion do we have here??

Basically any people you see in Vietnam today who may "look like Chinese" are basically the descendants of the Han-Chinese from 1000 years occupation of Vietnam.

They are technically Chinese-Vietnamese (Chinese ethnic whom were born in Vietnam), not the real/pure/original Vietnamese ethnic.

Real original Vietnamese wouldn't look any different from the local Mon-Khmer/Austro-Asiantic tribes, because they were living next to each other in Southeast Asia for at least over 4500 years

And Vietnamese are also considered to be an Austro-Asiantic race which is the similar family to the Mon-Khmer
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Old 04-18-2021, 09:40 PM
 
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Where is this the so-called "well known and accurate Genetic companies" that you keep mentioning?? Show us, okay?? Because you never show us at all.

There are multiple genetic research of the genetic relationship between Thailand and Vietnam already.

And all of them are showing the same story that neither Vietnamese or Thai are genetically more related to East Asian more than one another, but both are related to East Asian on the similar level.











Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:03 PM
 
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Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
Lol.....Is this came from "you" ? Who are you anyway? Why people have to trust your statement?

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...














It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level. Southern Chineses is in group too(and Taiwanese to some extent).

Korean, Japanese and Northern Chinese are closely related.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.(You need to accept this true fact and live with it okay? I know you are a racist and hateful person and you hated Malay and Khmer so much, but there is nothing you can do to change the truth of "you are them and they are you").

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Old 04-18-2021, 10:16 PM
 
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Lol.....Is this came from "you" ? Who are you anyway? Why people have to trust your statement?

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...














It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.
Not, Thais is genetically not close to Vietnamese ... Vietnamese is close to Chinese
Filipinos is close to Aboriginal Taiwanese , Eastern Indonesian and a population in the Pacific Islander

Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:24 PM
 
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Not, Thais is genetically not close to Vietnamese ... Vietnamese is close to Chinese
Filipinos is close to Aboriginal Taiwanese , Eastern Indonesian and a population in the Pacific Islander

Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
Show us proof okay? Where are scientific and historical proof to back up your claim??? (Because other people aren't going to care about "your opinion")

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...














You seriously have mental problem and having extremely racist and hateful mentality, you need to learn to respect and accepting the facts okay?


It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level. Southern Chineses is in group too(and Taiwanese to some extent).

Korean, Japanese and Northern Chinese are closely related.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.(You need to accept this true fact and live with it okay? I know you are a racist and hateful person and you hated Malay and Khmer so much, but there is nothing you can do to change the truth of "you are them and they are you").
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Old 04-18-2021, 10:27 PM
 
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Show us proof okay? Where are scientific and historical proof to back up your claim??? (Because other people aren't going to care about "your opinion")

Because this is what all of the "real and trustworthy" genetic researchers said...














You seriously have mental problem and having extremely racist and hateful mentality, you need to learn to respect and accepting the facts okay?


It proven times and times again that Thai and Vietnamese are genetically related to East Asian on the similar level. (Southern Chineses is in this group too)

Korean, Japanese and Northern Chinese are closely related.

Indonesia, Malay and Khmer/Cambodian are all closely related to each other.

Filipino are related to the Taiwanese aboriginal.
Thais is genetically not close to Vietnamese ... Vietnamese is close to Chinese
Filipinos is close to Taiwanese Aborigine and Eastern Indonesia and a population in the Pacific Islander

Genetically close to each other:

Japanese, Korean

Chinese & Vietnamese

Indonesian, Thais, Cambodia, Laos, Myamnmar

Filipino & Austronesian
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