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Macau has many workers living in Zhuhai and too relying on tourists or gamblers from mainland China. That's why the border isn't really closed unlike other places in Asia.
A new foreigner with work visa issued to them can enter HK, but not visitors from most countries.
HK and Taiwan Chinese can enter Macau but most don't because don't like to spend 2 or 3 weeks in hotels after entry.
HK regards Australia and NZ as low risk, now accepting fully vaccinated visitors from both countries if they can stay 7 days in a hotel after entering HK. 14 days if not fully vaccinated. The latest policy requires visitors from Taiwan and Macau to be isolated from community after they enter HK. 4 cases in Macau led to a lockdown in Gongbei of Zhuhai. So very few people plan to enter Macau now.
Overreacted? Some places like Mainland China, Macau, HK, Taiwan, Australia and NZ had few or no cases. They heard of the bad situation of other places. Go strict to prevent outbreaks from becoming out of control.They don't want uncontrollable outbreaks like Japan and others. Vaccines can't stop spreading. So these places still insist on masks .
Macau tests all people in a few days. Zhuhai locks down a sub district when no case in zhuhai but in Macau. Taiwan suddenly wanted vaccines urgently.
Apparently I always thought the proper use of KN95 or KF94 masks could truely avoid the issues these places. And people are diligent in properly using such masks and properly educated for it. But interestingly outbreaks still occur despite all that precaution taking by the locals and a sealed border in which returning nationals go under strict transportation, testing, and quarantine limits.
Its interesting Taiwan did not get the WHO's message on outdoor activities not being a risk. They make the same mistakes banning use of outdoor recreational courts like the west in the beginning. Much of the west eventually exempted outdoor recreational courts from lockdown on their second and third lockdowns. The only outdoor activities still banned were spectator sporting events and sometimes dining.
While I don't condone in any way the Olympics in Japan. As I heard IOC members were exempt from quarantine just to make it happen. Though Japan respected the basic rights of its Nationals and knew their limits on governmental powers under the rule of law, constitution. That's the most important test that many countries including advanced ones end up throwing out the window on March of 2020 and decided to shoot first ask questions later, or went right back to the kings' era of ruling by decree. There is no evidence that doing so did any good. It appears its all luck some places would have more outbreaks and some times and others have less. But violating the constitutional rights and rule of law that took so long to build up caused a lot of collateral irreversible damage. Thats my 2 cents.
Having said all that good thing Taiwan didn't follow New Zealand last 2020 which chose the hard locked down route for just a few minor cases.
4 cases in Macau led to a lockdown in Gongbei of Zhuhai. So very few people plan to enter Macau now.
Mainland Chinese can still come to Macau. But, yeah, a Macau local was in Mainland China (Xi'an) and brought back DELTA COVID and spread it to her family. The entire city of Macau was required to be tested for COVID within 72 hours. So yeah, people are a bit concerned about traveling to Macau from the Mainland, but Gongbei isn't under lockdown, people are still coming through if they have the proper paperwork.
I think little outbreaks are happening throughout China at the moment, which has everyone a bit hesitant at the moment. Zhuhai included.
When the vaccination rates become very high in China including HK and Macao, and the vaccines effective against the circulating variants in the world. Macao and HK will open up along with Mainland China.
These three places don't want a single infected person in the community. Test more people than any other country.
Well, this says it's only at 3% has had two doses....?? What's going on in Taiwan? Apathy? Anti-vaccination messaging? Something else? They have a prevalent vaccine that only requires 1 jab? What's behind the abysmal numbers?
Well, this says it's only at 3% has had two doses....?? What's going on in Taiwan? Apathy? Anti-vaccination messaging? Something else? They have a prevalent vaccine that only requires 1 jab? What's behind the abysmal numbers?
For some reason, Taiwan seems to often make decisions that do not make much sense. You can see the bad state of housing in Taiwan, and know immediately that something wrong has happened.
In terms of covid response, they have been good at keeping covid out of their borders and getting the community to follow the rules, but they have not been vaccinating or testing. They also waited way too long to respond to the new outbreak and did not do enough, which at best increased the amount of time till they get cases back down to 0, or it will never get back to 0 and Taiwan will get another outbreak.
And while China made decent decisions after covering it up, they are also starting to make mistakes such as port shutdown and using ineffective vaccine, so it might be partly explained by cultural factors.
Taiwan's vaccination rate is so low right now, and meanwhile Singapore is nearing 80%.
Is Taiwan filled with a lot of anti-vaccination messaging like Hong Kong is? What's holding it back?
Because China ****ed with the vaccine procurement. It was all over the news.
And before May no one wanted the vaccine as there was no outbreak. Not even medical personnel. Vaccination started late May so it's still too early for second jabs.
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For some reason, Taiwan seems to often make decisions that do not make much sense. You can see the bad state of housing in Taiwan, and know immediately that something wrong has happened.
What bad state of housing? What is your problem?
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In terms of covid response, they have been good at keeping covid out of their borders and getting the community to follow the rules, but they have not been vaccinating or testing. They also waited way too long to respond to the new outbreak and did not do enough, which at best increased the amount of time till they get cases back down to 0, or it will never get back to 0 and Taiwan will get another outbreak.
The lockdown lasted about two months, which wasn't particularly long at all. Now it's back to normal.
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And while China made decent decisions after covering it up, they are also starting to make mistakes such as port shutdown and using ineffective vaccine, so it might be partly explained by cultural factors.
China's covid response has nothing to do with Taiwan's covid response other than the fact that China keeps blocking Taiwan from acquiring vaccine. Your information is inaccurate. Stop reading Global Times.
The lockdown lasted about two months, which wasn't particularly long at all. Now it's back to normal.
China's covid response has nothing to do with Taiwan's covid response other than the fact that China keeps blocking Taiwan from acquiring vaccine. Your information is inaccurate. Stop reading Global Times.
The fact that you can't even notice the housing problems in Taiwan is quite telling. If you can't figure out yourself, search for Norwegian/German/Spanish/American housing and compare with your own city. The attitude that the problem doesn't exist is the reason why it does not get fixed.
Taiwan is not back to normal, cases are not 0 and I can guarantee that you read the garbage from Global Times more than I do.
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