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What attitude? 2% is not high anywhere. It is high for Taiwan, but it's not that high.
And Sweden's population is a lot smaller. 20 is about the same as Australia last year when the situation was the worst.
20 deaths and 500 cases would indicate a case fatality rate of at least 4%. The 2% number is either bogus or Taiwan is not testing the right people. Neither is something positive.
Sweden population is about 45% of Taiwans population and peaked at 100 deaths. That means Taiwan only would need to double 3 times before completely losing control.
And Australia locked down Victoria when deaths hit 10. No places in Taiwan is under lockdown despite having twice as many deaths.
20 deaths and 500 cases would indicate a case fatality rate of at least 4%. The 2% number is either bogus or Taiwan is not testing the right people. Neither is something positive.
Lol ok. I don't really need to explain to you anyway. There is no reason to believe that the positive test rate is bogus or that wrong people are beling tested (what the **** does that even mean lol), but you believe in what you want to believe. I really don't care.
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Sweden population is about 45% of Taiwans population and peaked at 100 deaths. That means Taiwan only would need to double 3 times before completely losing control.
And Australia locked down Victoria when deaths hit 10. No places in Taiwan is under lockdown despite having twice as many deaths.
Yeah yeah heard it all before.
And it is pretty much under lockdown at this point. The streets are very empty, not that you would know anything about it.
Lol ok. I don't really need to explain to you anyway. There is no reason to believe that the positive test rate is bogus or that wrong people are beling tested (what the **** does that even mean lol), but you believe in what you want to believe. I really don't care.
Let me explain it for you so that you can understand.
1. Taiwan had 500 cases and 20 deaths, which indicates a CFR of 4%
2. Since it is in the exponential phase, then it actually indicates a CFR of above 4%
3. We know that the CFR is significantly below 1%
4. That means Taiwan is not able to catch most of the cases.
5. If Taiwan is not able to catch most of the cases, but their positivity rate is low, then they are testing the wrong people.
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Yeah yeah heard it all before.
And it is pretty much under lockdown at this point. The streets are very empty, not that you would know anything about it.
Yes, we told the europeans and americans the same, and now you are stupid enough to follow in their footsteps.
They also managed to get cases down somewhat, but then they reopened and cases started to surge again. To get it under control, you need a real lockdown and it needs to be kept till cases go down to 0.
Let me explain it for you so that you can understand.
1. Taiwan had 500 cases and 20 deaths, which indicates a CFR of 4%
2. Since it is in the exponential phase, then it actually indicates a CFR of above 4%
3. We know that the CFR is significantly below 1%
4. That means Taiwan is not able to catch most of the cases.
5. If Taiwan is not able to catch most of the cases, but their positivity rate is low, then they are testing the wrong people.
Except it's not 500 cases and 20 deaths, it's 6000+ cases and like 70 deaths in 2 weeks. No one calculates deaths by day.
And only people with symptons or have contact with confirmed cases are getting tested. Testing is not even free. And the positive test rate peaked like 10 days ago.
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Yes, we told the europeans and americans the same, and now you are stupid enough to follow in their footsteps.
They also managed to get cases down somewhat, but then they reopened and cases started to surge again.
The extent of decrease of mobility in Taipei is the same as cities that have had hard lockdowns over the past year. The cities are almost completely empty. But of course you wouldn't know that because why would you? All you read is bs Global Times bogus reporting that makes it seem like people were dying on the streets over here lol. Maybe you should listen to people who actually live here instead of your bull**** theories.
Besides, what's it to you anyway? You are a foreigner living in China. Your relation with Taiwan is basically just arguing with me on a website.
Except it's not 500 cases and 20 deaths, it's 6000+ cases and like 70 deaths in 2 weeks. No one calculates deaths by day.
And only people with symptons or have contact with confirmed cases are getting tested. Testing is not even free. And the positive test rate peaked like 10 days ago.
You just confirmed what I said. The low positivity rate is due to testing not being available.
Nothing to be proud of or use as an argument for that its not that bad.
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The extent of decrease of mobility in Taipei is the same as cities that have had hard lockdowns over the past year. The cities are almost completely empty. But of course you wouldn't know that because why would you? All you read is bs Global Times bogus reporting that makes it seem like people were dying on the streets over here lol. Maybe you should listen to people who actually live here instead of your bull**** theories.
Besides, what's it to you anyway? You are a foreigner living in China. Your relation with Taiwan is basically just arguing with me on a website.
You don't even understand what Americans and Europeans did wrong. They also hide inside for a while and did manage to get cases to drop. The problem is that their attempts was half-hearted and they never managed to get rid of the virus.
Even though the streets are relatively empty, it could have been much more empty if they had locked down similar to New Zealand, Australia or China. Taiwans way reminds me of what they did in the countries who never managed to get cases back to zero.
If Taiwan is lucky, then it might get cases down to 10 per day by next month, but then people are not going to voluntarily stay inside anymore and the number of cases will surge again.
Taiwan’s just part of the bigger problem in Asia and the rest of the world who have misjudged and miscalculated the complexities and management of Covid. There hasn’t been a single country anywhere in the world who have vaccinated enough of their population to achieve herd immunity.
And how does any country as authoritarian as China or as democratic and liberal as nations in the West convince the millions of skeptics who will never vaccinate, mask or avoid crowds and who threaten other people’s lives and health.
I find Singaporeans’ obsession with Taiwan interesting.
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