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And yet they’re still able to fund these projects. Our passenger rail system in Canada is an absolute joke. The via trains have to yield for freight and let them pass. It takes days and days to get across the country, slower than driving. A HSR system here would be amazing. They’ve talked about it for decades but nothing ends up happening.
Our democracy should be able accommodate issues like this where there is probably a clear consensus on wanting these projects built. The short gaps between election cycles make most politicians hesitant to try anything ambitious anymore. Not like the old days after WWII
China constantly pushes the infrastructure narrative to justify their one party state and we in the West should be working hard to show that we can accomplish big ambitious projects quickly as well, maybe even better than China can.
Then why aren't you in China, if you love their HSR that much?
As of 2021 January 29, Alstom has acquired Bombardier Transportation "accelerating Alstom’s strategic roadmap." Noteworthy is the fact that both Bombadier and Alstom are world leaders in building HSR.
You and Greysholic need to trade places to keep the facts filtered.
Cars are expensive in China, especially if it is an imported car.
Over there, a lamborghini can cost up to 7.55 million yuan, roughly US$1,120,000;
whereas in Canada, a Lamborghini Aventador S (2020) is from C$350,995 (base price) to C$720,895 (fully loaded).
Even though a low-end car is cheaper in China than in HK, the lower income makes owning a car in China just as formidable as in HK. Hence, HSR makes a lot of sense for densely populated regions including Tokyo and Singapore, where the costs of owning a car is prohibitive with all their auto-laws. https://www.ccarprice.com/cn/
car prices in China https://www.ccarprice.com/hk/
car prices in HK
Then, there is a choice of lifestyle. It is convenient to hop into a rolling stock and shop at the new Shanghai JiuGuang Center. Some people just don't get tired doing that 365 days a year.
And yet they’re still able to fund these projects. Our passenger rail system in Canada is an absolute joke. The via trains have to yield for freight and let them pass. It takes days and days to get across the country, slower than driving. A HSR system here would be amazing. They’ve talked about it for decades but nothing ends up happening.
Our democracy should be able accommodate issues like this where there is probably a clear consensus on wanting these projects built. The short gaps between election cycles make most politicians hesitant to try anything ambitious anymore. Not like the old days after WWII
China constantly pushes the infrastructure narrative to justify their one party state and we in the West should be working hard to show that we can accomplish big ambitious projects quickly as well, maybe even better than China can.
That’s laughable. Canada is one of the most sparsely populated countries in the world. By area it’s larger than China but the population size is about 3% as large. Of course HSR wouldn’t be viable. It might be viable on US east coast, like say a line from Boston to DC, but that’s about it
I think makes a lot of sense to have one. At least in the Quebec-Windsor corridor. Close to 20 million people, over half of Canada’s population
Sure there are more people there, but the distance is about the same as between Beijing and Shanghai, but that train serve hundreds of million of people and is also used as connection point for other routes.
And there is a train between Windsor and Montreal, and it takes 11 hours. It takes 15 hours if you include a bus to Quebec. Spending lots of money on a higher speed rail doesn't make much sense in a country that is as sparsely populated as Canada.
Then why aren't you in China, if you love their HSR that much?
As of 2021 January 29, Alstom has acquired Bombardier Transportation "accelerating Alstom’s strategic roadmap." Noteworthy is the fact that both Bombadier and Alstom are world leaders in building HSR.
You and Greysholic need to trade places to keep the facts filtered.
Cars are expensive in China, especially if it is an imported car.
Over there, a lamborghini can cost up to 7.55 million yuan, roughly US$1,120,000;
whereas in Canada, a Lamborghini Aventador S (2020) is from C$350,995 (base price) to C$720,895 (fully loaded).
Even though a low-end car is cheaper in China than in HK, the lower income makes owning a car in China just as formidable as in HK. Hence, HSR makes a lot of sense for densely populated regions including Tokyo and Singapore, where the costs of owning a car is prohibitive with all their auto-laws. https://www.ccarprice.com/cn/
car prices in China https://www.ccarprice.com/hk/
car prices in HK
Then, there is a choice of lifestyle. It is convenient to hop into a rolling stock and shop at the new Shanghai JiuGuang Center. Some people just don't get tired doing that 365 days a year.
well, new electric cars are super cheap in china though, I wish they can sell the $6000 ones in the states
well, new electric cars are super cheap in china though, I wish they can sell the $6000 ones in the states
To have a electric car, you are often required to buy/rent a parking spot with a charging station. We get a parking spot from our row house, but if you have an apartment then you can buy one for $10000 or rent it for $100 per month.
And this is in the suburbs in a new first tier city. If you live in a more expensive area, then expect to pay more.
Is China a communist country? So if you're one of the more educated ones to be working on the rail transit, you count towards being richer and more educated than others. Commoners. You already own a lot. In a way, you own the rail. The requirement for the rail project is to be more educated. Schooled obviously. Just the average citizen, but richer than some of the people in China. This is a given.
To have a electric car, you are often required to buy/rent a parking spot with a charging station. We get a parking spot from our row house, but if you have an apartment then you can buy one for $10000 or rent it for $100 per month.
And this is in the suburbs in a new first tier city. If you live in a more expensive area, then expect to pay more.
well, to have a non electric car, you need to pay even more to get and keep the license.
and what the hell is a suburbs in "new first tier city"? are you talking about the big four?
^^This nails it.^^ But due to the nature of the enterprise -- high capital cost, and an immovable physical property which can be figuratively sized, mismanaged and looted by politicans and their clentele (that charming reptile we call "the public"), what else would anyone, under any form of economy, expect?
well, to have a non electric car, you need to pay even more to get and keep the license.
and what the hell is a suburbs in "new first tier city"? are you talking about the big four?
Lol no. The lisence plate cost us $2500, which is significantly less than $10000.
And if you don't understand the tier system in China, search it up.
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