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In the 60s, Mexican life expectancy was ten tears longer than Chinese. China has caught up and they are now equal. Face? Security?
Have you noticed any difference in quality of life in China, on your recent visits.
I can play that game too. In the 70s, Maldives was ten years shorter and now it is higher than China. That means Maldives care more about people than China does?
I don't need to visit, I live in China. In terms of quality of life, it improved till the start of the pandemic, and then has started to reverse. For instance the high speed train we are talking about in this thread, is now unavailable in practice for large parts of society because travel is restricted.
I can play that game too. In the 70s, Maldives was ten years shorter and now it is higher than China. That means Maldives care more about people than China does?
I don't need to visit, I live in China. In terms of quality of life, it improved till the start of the pandemic, and then has started to reverse. For instance the high speed train we are talking about in this thread, is now unavailable in practice for large parts of society because travel is restricted.
Seems to me that China isn't all that different than much of the rest of the world as far as pandemic restriction implications go
Seems to me that China isn't all that different than much of the rest of the world as far as pandemic restriction implications go
It was different. Last year, most Chinese were free to do what they wanted apart from going abroad, while the western world was seeing lots of deaths and harsh restrictions. A lot of Chinese supported the restrictions as it let Chinese people live normally.
But the new variants changed everything. First, they started to discourage travel domestically, and then we got more and more local outbreaks. At the same time, the west is experiencing a lot fewer deaths per case and is able to relax the restrictions.
If you end up in a local outbreak city, then you will not be allowed to travel outside your city/district, can't order deliveries, and can't send your kids to school or kindergarten. If a case is found close to your neighborhood, then it will be closed off completely and your door might be barred. And if a case is found in your building, you will sent off to a quarantine center with poor living conditions. At the same time, the government is not providing any support to businesses that are affected by the restrictions, so the local economy is getting severely damaged.
Seems to me that China isn't all that different than much of the rest of the world as far as pandemic restriction implications go
"The lockdown of Anyang, home to 5.5 million people, was announced late Monday after two cases of the Omicron variant were reported. Residents are not allowed to go out and stores have been ordered shut except those selling necessities."
No the restrictions in China when implemented by the Chinese Communist Government are stricter than in a democratic society.
But some democratic societies aren't exactly shining examples of "freedom" either, such as what's going on in Australia. Fundamentally, democracy doesn't guarantee freedom. If a majority decides to let the government have it's way via the will of the people, that's still democracy, but the results can be nothing to make light of.
"The lockdown of Anyang, home to 5.5 million people, was announced late Monday after two cases of the Omicron variant were reported. Residents are not allowed to go out and stores have been ordered shut except those selling necessities."
Ah . . . sure . . . not all that different. Is it ?
Not all that different from how some "democratic" societies have operated.
We're ultimately splitting hairs on some issues, though.
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Australia has deployed hundreds of soldiers to Sydney to help enforce a Covid lockdown.
A Delta outbreak which began in June has produced nearly 3,000 infections and led to nine deaths.
Australian Defence Force soldiers will undergo training on the weekend before beginning unarmed patrols on Monday.
But many have questioned whether the military intervention is necessary, calling it heavy-handed.
The lockdown - in place until at least 28 August - bars people from leaving their home except for essential exercise, shopping, caregiving and other reasons.
If stores in China that are selling necessities are allowed to remain open per the very source you provide, clearly people can go out under various circumstances, just like they can in the Australia example.
Some of the scenes I've seen out of Australia have been rather frightening.
In Australia, they are literally locking people up for "incitement" for "encouraging" people to not abide by government lockdowns This was a pregnant woman getting arrested.
If people take issue with me stating "much of the rest of the world," that's fine. But we are clearly seeing heavy handed tactics from "democratic" societies, too.
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This was a pregnant woman getting arrested.
