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View Poll Results: Do you consider Philippine people Hispanic?
Yes 44 7.01%
Semi-Hispanic 143 22.77%
Not at all 441 70.22%
Voters: 628. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-08-2010, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Mustang, OK
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Originally Posted by Chava61 View Post
The Philippines was formerly a Spanish colony and that is why many Filipinos have Spanish names.
yep. the Phillippines was colonized by the Spanish in the 1560s. as to the OP's post, i'm a dark-skinned Chinese-Fillipino of the Asian persuasion. i speak three languages, including Spanish. working on mastering Gaeilge (Irish) at the moment.

 
Old 05-10-2010, 12:23 AM
 
Location: Boston
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There's nothing really Hispanic about them except that the Philippines were a Spanish colony which left behind some pieces of Spanish culture (Catholicism, loanwords).
 
Old 05-10-2010, 12:29 AM
 
Location: Northridge, Los Angeles, CA
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Again, I reiterate:

As a Filipino-American, I don't consider myself in any way, shape, or form 'Latin'. First of all, I'm not Catholic but Muslim with my name being of Arabic origin except for my middle name, which is Spanish. Second of all, not ALL Philippine languages are replete with Spanish words and most Philippine languages are linguistically part of the same family as Bahasa Indonesia or Bahasa Melayu (Malay). It depends how much contact that certain ethnic group had with the Spanish, and mine had very little until the 1870s when they were finally able to take over that part of the Philippines.

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=244-16

In fact, I don't know any Filipino or Filipino American who consider themselves Hispanics.

Even though on the surface, our culture seems to look a lot like Hispanic culture, there are still very many differences. Simply being part of the same empire doesn't mean that you have a lot in common. After all, India and the United States were both under the British Empire. Look how much the US has in common with India.

Anyways, most Filipino Muslims don't even want to be identified with the Philippines, much less with a foreign country that only managed to take us over in the late 1800s. The only thing that us Muslims have in common with the Filipino Christians is that we were administered under the same territory as the Catholics. In fact, there's really no such thing as a unifying Filipino culture to be honest other than the Philippines was administered as one unit. A lot of Filipino nationalism is based off of Catholicism, which is antithetical to my identity as a Muslim. In my opinion, its a colonial invention imposed on us by the Spanish and the Americans due to administrative conveniences. How can Muslims call themselves 'Filipino', considering the "Philippines" was named after a King who helped continue the Spanish Inquisition as a vehemently Catholic king? What does an Illocano speaker, a Tagalog speaker, and Visaya speaker have in common anyways, besides being relatively close to each other? Much ado about NOTHING really.

I'm sorry, but I sooner rather consider myself an American than a Filipino. At least being an American doesn't carry a religious identifier as much as being Filipino does.
 
Old 05-10-2010, 12:54 AM
 
Location: Boston
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Originally Posted by Lifeshadower View Post
Again, I reiterate:

As a Filipino-American, I don't consider myself in any way, shape, or form 'Latin'. First of all, I'm not Catholic but Muslim with my name being of Arabic origin except for my middle name, which is Spanish. Second of all, not ALL Philippine languages are replete with Spanish words and most Philippine languages are linguistically part of the same family as Bahasa Indonesia or Bahasa Melayu (Malay). It depends how much contact that certain ethnic group had with the Spanish, and mine had very little until the 1870s when they were finally able to take over that part of the Philippines.

http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=244-16

In fact, I don't know any Filipino or Filipino American who consider themselves Hispanics.

Even though on the surface, our culture seems to look a lot like Hispanic culture, there are still very many differences. Simply being part of the same empire doesn't mean that you have a lot in common. After all, India and the United States were both under the British Empire. Look how much the US has in common with India.

Anyways, most Filipino Muslims don't even want to be identified with the Philippines, much less with a foreign country that only managed to take us over in the late 1800s. The only thing that us Muslims have in common with the Filipino Christians is that we were administered under the same territory as the Catholics. In fact, there's really no such thing as a unifying Filipino culture to be honest other than the Philippines was administered as one unit. A lot of Filipino nationalism is based off of Catholicism, which is antithetical to my identity as a Muslim. In my opinion, its a colonial invention imposed on us by the Spanish and the Americans due to administrative conveniences. How can Muslims call themselves 'Filipino', considering the "Philippines" was named after a King who helped continue the Spanish Inquisition as a vehemently Catholic king? What does an Illocano speaker, a Tagalog speaker, and Visaya speaker have in common anyways, besides being relatively close to each other? Much ado about NOTHING really.

I'm sorry, but I sooner rather consider myself an American than a Filipino. At least being an American doesn't carry a religious identifier as much as being Filipino does.
~Well that really depends on where you are. lol

Jokes aside, I know what you're saying. Not only does it feel weird when someone tells you you're something you're not and insists on it, it can also be pretty insulting. The way we define ourselves is a big part of who we are, and to have someone else come along and tell you what you are and aren't is just wrong.
 
Old 05-10-2010, 06:21 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn
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The whole idea of this poll is surreal, to say the list. We're supposed to "vote" on what people in a different country consider themselves? Honestly, this is even worse than "reality TV."
 
Old 09-25-2011, 12:04 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Here are some of our Philippine Folk Song when Spanish was still an official language in the Philippines.

"Mariposa Bella" Original Version 1890
"Paru Parong Bukid" Translated in Tagalog 1939



"Paru Parong Bukid tagalog Version translated from Original Spanish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVBl-XeM1yw

"La Bella Filipina" Original Spanish Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppbIpw8k5_s"

"La Bella Filipina" Tagalog Kundiman Version

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeOND8B9Vtw

"El Paipay de Manila"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSvZuljdEoc
I guess the picture slideshows was during the Japanese era invaded us during World War II

Here is Manila during the Spanish Era

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paRwml066Lo

Last edited by pinai; 09-25-2011 at 01:12 AM..
 
Old 09-25-2011, 12:40 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Here is the recent music from Zamboanga
Chavacanno "Spanish Creole" mixed with tagalog.. Chavacanno is just one of the dialect in the Philippines

PORQUE by Maldita (they are from Zamboanga City Southern Philippines)

Maldita - Porque (Official Music Video) HQ - YouTube

Here is one of Philippine Legend singer and she sang a lot of our Philippine Folk Songs

Carińosa Spanish Version by Pilita Corrales

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KElY--RPEc

Karinyosa Tagalog Version sang by Pilita Corrales

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rc95NWtkK0w

Carińosa Folk Dance

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy18EXrueu0

Last edited by pinai; 09-25-2011 at 01:00 AM..
 
Old 09-25-2011, 01:26 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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I am from Northern Luzon. Catholic and this is the folk dances from my province Pangasinan
We celebrate fiestas every summer of April... Here are the Folk Dance and Music of my home province from Northern Philippines =)

Jota Pangasinan

Jota Pangasinan - YouTube

Sayaw sa Bangko

Philippine Folk Dances - Track 04 - Sayaw Sa Bangko - YouTube

Here's my dialect from Pangasinan (Pangasinense & Ilocano), one of our Folk Song using our local language aside from our
National Language..

[ulr]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yydfGVQmM[/url]

The Similarities of Filipino to its Austronesian Brothers/Sisters

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzsdV.../object><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oShirKsUDAk[/url]

Philippines is a melting pot of different cultures from East to West...
From food, music, dance and people...

Here's one of the mixed Tribes from the Philippines..
They came from different tribes from Luzon to Mindanao and they all joined together..They are "Kadangyan"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26aF64dGJlg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXPsV0CWJ2w
I actually don't understand their dialect hehehe.. but I appreciated the music =) because we have a lot of Dialects

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Old 09-25-2011, 03:25 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Actually, there's a lot of videos that represent our culture in the Philippines. We are Asian, with Hispanic Culture and we're not considering ourselves as Latino from Latin America. Even though I have French (great-great grandfather who exiled due to religious war) and Spanish Ancestry (great great grandmother - the last vintage of Spain) from my mother's father side. I traced them through Birth Certificates and the rest from my Asian ancestry...but I am Filipino I still thank my ancestor without them, we will not be Filipinos.

We do celebrate Semana Santa, Noche Buena, Meja Noche, All Souls and All Saints day (Undas), due to strong influence of Catholic Christianity in the Philippines we usually starts celebrating Christmas from 1st of Sept until 6th of Jan (3 Kings), Santacruzan/Sagada or Flores de Mayo and the Barrio Fiesta too...

The cuisine in the Philippines reflects the influences of Spanish and Asian cuisine:

Albondigas
Afritada
Arroz a la valenciana
Avocado
Brazo de Mercedes
Calabaza
Galantina
Caldereta
Camote
Chicharrón
Chorizo
Dulce de membrillo
Dulce de leche
Dinuguan
Empanadas
Ensaymadas
Escabeche
Flan
Galletas
Jamón
Longaniza
Mamon
Mechado
Menudo
Mazapan
Natilla
Paella
Pan de sal
Pastel de lengua
Pastillas de leche
Pescado
Picadillo
Pochero de bacalao
Quezo de Bola
Relleno
Tamales
Torta del cielo
Tortas
Tortilla quesada
Tocino
Tocino del Cielo
Turrones de Casuy
Lingua de Gato

From Chinese Influence when it comes to cuisine:

Pancit
Lumpia
Taho
Batchoy
Maki - pork, beef or fish in a thick cornstarch-based soup.
Kiampong - a variant of fried rice.
Comida China - nowadays a Table d'hote of Chinese dishes offered in some Chinese restaurants.
Hopya (hopia, based on the mooncake in Western countries)
Shaomai (siomai)
Syopaw (siopao)
Kwapaw (cuapao)
Mami
Tikoy (Sticky cake)

Here's the Original and 1st National Anthem of the Philippines in Spanish during 1899

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utyRinGbqxc

Philippines was under the Spanish rule for 333 yrs, then the americans, then the japanese too.. I don't know about the Japanese influence though hmmm... I know the American Influence are too strong in the Philippines right now too.. they taught us in english so the spanish language that our fellow filipinos used for 333 yrs were easily disappeared.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hifukPQg0ps
Most of the Spanish Influence are from Luzon, Visayas and only some part of Mindanao

Here's another Spanish Influence Dance to the Philippine Folk Dance called "Mantones de Seda"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsy2P-RBxy8

Last edited by pinai; 09-25-2011 at 04:47 AM..
 
Old 09-25-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: NC
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No

But it is cool to see the Latin last names
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