Can a non believer be elected (scientific, Christians, bible, myth)

[Chango]

Originally Posted by PDD

I didn't know Obama professed to be a non believer, when did he do that?

He didn't. That would hurt his political career. But I still think it's clear he's a "closet atheist" despite "official statements" to the contrary.

[PDD]

Originally Posted by Chango

He didn't. That would hurt his political career. But I still think it's clear he's a "closet atheist" despite "official statements" to the contrary.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but that's not what the original post asked.

If Obama had proclaimed he was an atheist, Sarah Palin would be the VP

[pnc66]

Originally Posted by Asheville Native

Here we have a member of city council that is an Atheist, and the idiots howled their hatred from the churches and tried to say that state law would prevent him from taking office.

There is such a law, but has been overturned by the courts a long time ago.

Actually that law appears to still be on the books if you're talking about North Carolina....

Sec. 8. Disqualifications for office.
The following persons shall be disqualified for office:
First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

Crazy!! This is as quoted from the NC State Constitution.

[Asheville Native]

Originally Posted by pnc66

Actually that law appears to still be on the books if you're talking about North Carolina....

Sec. 8. Disqualifications for office.
The following persons shall be disqualified for office:
First, any person who shall deny the being of Almighty God.

Crazy!! This is as quoted from the NC State Constitution.

There a whole lot of silly laws still on the books across the country, including what a couple can't do in their bedroom. When this was dominating the local news a couple of years ago I read somewhere that about 8 states had similar laws on the books.

But it is a vivid reminder of the danger of allowing fools to introduce their myths into laws that override reason, fact, or even common sense.

[MattClyde]

I think Lincoln confessed at one point that he isn't Christian. He could have other beliefs but he never told the 1860's media if he did. So he might have been an Atheist.
That is pretty good for 1860's

[Dewdroplet76]

Obama says he is a Christian. I could care less if he actually is or not. I'd rather have an atheist president than one who says God tells him to start wars. But that's just me.

Right now - no, an atheist would not get elected president. Hopefully that will change.

[Rafius]

Not in America perhaps but Australia's Prime Minister is atheist, female.....and Welsh!!
Bravo Australia!

Our PM is also atheist.

"The official aim of Pope Benedict XVI lightning-quick visit to Spain was to celebrate the Christian family, helping to close the Catholic World Meeting of Families in Valencia this weekend. Instead, the Pope's much-anticipated handshake and photo op Saturday evening with Spanish Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero looked more like a heavyweight boxing stare-down of ideas over the direction of Western civilization and the meaning of morality in the modern world."
http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...#ixzz15kA4gQU9

[Peregrine]

So everyone has said no. Apparently no one read your post, Mythunderstood:

Originally Posted by mythunderstood

Congressman Pete Stark is an atheist. There are also more members of congress who are listed as "unaffiliated" for their religion which could be "code" for being secretly atheist.

"In a statement issued Monday, the 75-year-old Stark added that, "like our nation's founders, I strongly support the separation of church and state. I look forward to working with the Secular Coalition to stop the promotion of narrow religious beliefs in science, marriage contracts, the military and the provision of social services."
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[Dewdroplet76]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

So everyone has said no. Apparently no one read your post, Mythunderstood:




"In a statement issued Monday, the 75-year-old Stark added that, "like our nation's founders, I strongly support the separation of church and state. I look forward to working with the Secular Coalition to stop the promotion of narrow religious beliefs in science, marriage contracts, the military and the provision of social services."
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My "no" is for an atheist getting elected president. I don't doubt that there are atheists in other offices. There are gays in other offices, too - but I doubt that a homosexual could get elected president at this time either. I think all this will change in time (hopefully).

[cncracer]

What makes you think we don’t have one now. Obama is well educated, intelligent, and does not attend church. It is a good start if he is not. You can go back in US history and find several non-religious presidents. FDR shows signs of being non religious, and Abe Lincoln was without question a strong Atheist as well as being anti-christian. Jefferson at best was Agnostic, Adam, and most of the founding fathers were also non-christian. The real push from the christian church in the US started in the 1950’s and in my view was an attempt to control a population which had had see the world, and understood more than their predicators. Religion is a tool used to control the masses, and the US sadly is not immune from it siren’s song.