I think believers NEED to read this so they can be enlightened on a few misconceptions

[KCfromNC]

Originally Posted by Woodrow LI

Call it Faith.

However, I see it no different from my belief that neutrinos exist, although I have no solid proof they exist.

List of neutrino experiments - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Any references to similar experiments proving god?

[KCfromNC]

Originally Posted by ThankUMayIHaveAnother?

When you identify yourself by your disbelief, you are saying more than that you lack belief. You are saying you don't believe in God.

And when you identify yourself by your disbelief, you are saying more than that you lack belief. You are saying you don't believe in the Tooth Fairy.

And that's faith. But you're only supposed to have faith in God. So you're going to hell for your religion of not believing in the Tooth Fairy. Good job.

Come on, lacking belief in something isn't a faith, it's just being reasonable in admitting that there's no reason to believe something. But it's curious that believers are so conflicted about faith. It's supposedly some terrific gift from god on the one hand, and then they're throwing it around like it's an insult to put down someone else's beliefs in the next. Make up your mind - which is it?

[nana053]

Originally Posted by KCfromNC

Yes, humans are very good at seeing patterns. So good that they even see the when they don't exist. That's why whole disciplines of science and math have been developed to test and see if what we think are patterns are actually real. Not surprisingly, gods consistently fail these tests - leaving us to believe that they're just created by our overactive imagination.

Michael Shermer's talk at the Freethought convention was about this tendency of humans to see patterns. He points out that we developed this in order to stay safe from predators. Assuming that a rustle in the bushes is a predator is safer than assuming that it is just the wind, so we assume predator whether or not their is anything there.

[catman]

Originally Posted by Woodrow LI

What is self evident to one person isften invisible to another.

If it is anything tangible, it will not be invisible, at least with the proper instrumentation. It must be reproducible. Otherwise, how is any figment of the imagination or outright deception to be separated from what is real and factual? Holy books and dogma don't qualify.