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Look at the world. Children starving, being raped and murdered. If there was a god that cared for each of us individually, it doesn't seem to care much. And all powerful, all loving, all caring god would not allow such things to happen to the weak and defenseless.
When I was a Christian as a teenager I never had any sense of the presence of a deity. The Bible became less than credible the more I questioned it, until I lost my faith completely.
Step one: read the Bible cover to cover (twice)
Step two: attended youth studies on other religions (using the most xenophobic literature imaginable)
Step three: went to college and started actually meeting people from those other (vilified) religions
Step four: started judging my own religion by the same standards that it judged all the others by
Step five: observe that there is virtually no difference in people that appeared even remotely attributable to the religion they held (some awesome folks, some jerks ...just like any other random sampling)
Step six: spend next decade searching for a concept of god that actually made sense with the observable world
Step seven: acknowledging that the observable god was functionally identical to no god(s) whatsoever
This is the very abridged version, but I think it sums it up.
So would most of you consider yourself atheists, disbelieving in any God ever existing. Or would you guys consider yourselves agnostics, or agnostic deists. Not knowing whether or not a God or God(s) exists or existed, but if they do/did, they must not care very much about revealing themselves to people in a way that a logically thinking person would be able to accept and/or understand?
So would most of you consider yourself atheists, disbelieving in any God ever existing. Or would you guys consider yourselves agnostics, or agnostic deists. Not knowing whether or not a God or God(s) exists or existed, but if they do/did, they must not care very much about revealing themselves to people in a way that a logically thinking person would be able to accept and/or understand?
I am an agnostic atheist, I don't KNOW if there is or is not a god, but don't believe there is one and won't believe there is one until evidence is presented. Evidence, not feelings, or "because trees exist", or to fill in gaps of knowledge, or "because the bible says so" or personal non provable "experiences". Proof, verifiable proof.
In hindsight, I'm not sure I ever really did believe. It was more a case of I stopped trying to make myself believe.
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Originally Posted by bluecheese
When I was a Christian as a teenager I never had any sense of the presence of a deity. The Bible became less than credible the more I questioned it, until I lost my faith completely.
Those pretty well covers it.
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