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Quite true. It IS important. But if someone simply doesn't have the interest in engaging in the religion debate, that is absolutely fine. So long as they have shrugged off the religious delusion they have done all I could ask of them and more.
Ps. Do I gather that Steel Dragon is not just a deconvert but a relatively recent one who dunnit before our werry eyes, as it were?
A deconvert? Nah.... That is surely never going to happen.
Thanks all for the thoughtful responses.
No. How can I get tired of NOT being something? It's like asking me if I get tired of not believing in leprechauns, not eating cats or not scuba diving in the Great Barrier Reef.
No. How can I get tired of NOT being something? It's like asking me if I get tired of not believing in leprechauns, not eating cats or not scuba diving in the Great Barrier Reef.
Exactly.
Makes no sense.
It's as if atheism was a group you choose to join.
I'm spending less and less time thinking about this anymore. At first, it was awe-inspiring to free my mind from this man-made nonsense. Then, it was the fresh air of science and understanding the universe through natural methodology, and the intellectual satisfaction that followed. Afterwards, it was chasing the dragon; trying to find something equally compelling to fill the void of 'Does god exist?" Now, it's just beating a dead horse. We don't sit around thinking about fairies and unicorns. Is there anything left to debate on the subject of a deity?
Hmmmm... I don't quite understand by the part I boldfaced. You mean trying to find something as intellectually stimulating as trying to answer that question?
It sounds to me like you're comfortable enough in your atheism that it's old hat to you. To me, that's a good thing, because it would indicate that it's just another part of you, and not the sole thing by which you define yourself as a human being. For you, you don't believe in a deity, and that's that. Nothing more to discuss here. There's nothing wrong with that.
Once I got to that point, I set the atheist part of my life toward fighting discrimination and helping it become more mainstream. I'm not interested in debating beliefs--people believe what they believe and it's their right to believe it--but I am interested in separation of church and state and protecting citizens from the tyranny of those who would make their religious beliefs the law of the land for all of us. That's a fight worth fighting: I am a woman who does not want to see her fellow women ever have to resort to back-alley abortions and coat-hangers ever again.
I'm spending less and less time thinking about this anymore. At first, it was awe-inspiring to free my mind from this man-made nonsense. Then, it was the fresh air of science and understanding the universe through natural methodology, and the intellectual satisfaction that followed. Afterwards, it was chasing the dragon; trying to find something equally compelling to fill the void of 'Does god exist?" Now, it's just beating a dead horse. We don't sit around thinking about fairies and unicorns. Is there anything left to debate on the subject of a deity?
That's pretty much how it's been for me.
I went through the questioning stage, the fact finding stage, the acceptance stage... now, I've extricated religiousness from my life to the point that my lack of belief rarely even factors into my day to day life. I actually like it like this; I can focus on much more pressing and interesting things.
No because Atheism is what makes sense to me so im not thinking what if or this or that. I find religions to be a total waste of time I don't have enough time for fairytales in my life.
For a while I would go over to Youtube and I would debate some of the young and not so young atheists...when I check my Youtube inbox and it is an old reply from an atheist - I dread opening it up and getting re-involved- Most of them are all the same with the same rhetoric and the same attitude. Almost all of them never want to have a conversation that is based on an intellectual basis. All I see is "proof" and "sky daddy" and "tooth fairy" over and over again and "gawd" - which shows contempt and loathing for any possibility of a supreme force or source...Once in a while I will run into a bright one that can reason.
My first experience with an atheist was in my 20s - it was a friend of my sister...he was a musician and amateur astronomer. We would look through his large reflector telescope and he would say "What a mess- I could have designed the universe better" - I asked him to explain some of the things we were looking at and he in arrogance and pride would say "Explaining to you is like trying to explain the moon to a dog"....
Well this guy in years to come left mayhem and suffering in what ever he touched. He married - had two children...They young woman was very impressed with him "Ron is the finest man the 20th century has ever produced. Well Ron did not play by the rules. Eventually Ron thought that he would toy with nature...He started taking hormones and grew breasts...and dressed like a woman...The finest man the 20th century caused his wife such distress that she went out to the truck and put a gun in her mouth and ended her life.
Later there were rumors that he had sexually abused his young daughters....Later I saw this creep at a school function- he was back to being a male again and was very proud of dating transgender folks...I would say this atheist was about the worst example of an atheist I had the misfortune to know.
That was about 20 years ago....when I had heard his young wife had committed suicide I was shocked but not surprised. I lost a lot of respect for atheism because of this horrid character...He was not just an atheist - but a man who played god and was not very good at it.
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