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Old 12-03-2018, 10:29 PM
 
Location: USA
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jghorton brings a Sunday school religious stick to debates. Until reality's knives come out. Then he disappears for a few months.
All we can do is point out to believers that continuously posting claims and then refusing to follow up when their claims have been effectively addressed makes them look foolish. We can't prevent them from being themselves.
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:08 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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The spiritually blind are spiritually blind to their own spiritual blindness. It's a self-inflicted condition. -- In spite of your ridicule, there is hope, but, ask yourself, "What is the basis for what you consider true?" -- How reliable has that proven for you?

I know the atheism/agnostic forum is filled with people who consider the things of God foolishness, but, ironically, the 'CD Christianity forum' attracts a large number of atheists/agnostics who come there to attack Christianity. Why shouldn't Christians come here to share the truth?
No reason at all. Indeed, if you didn't (and I am showing the atheist hand and will probably vanish and be found in a back alley filled with niitrous oxide shells) we could find nothing to talk about and drift away, so you Biblesuckers are thrice welcome. We can also question what you consider "The Truth".

This rest of your post I can leave to Northsouth, who has been there, done that and has the rope sandals with the little wooden painted flowers on to prove it, and can no doubt explain how it is to you.
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Old 12-04-2018, 01:30 AM
 
Location: Auckland, New Zealand
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The spiritually blind are spiritually blind to their own spiritual blindness. It's a self-inflicted condition. -- In spite of your ridicule, there is hope, but, ask yourself, "What is the basis for what you consider true?" -- How reliable has that proven for you?

I know the atheism/agnostic forum is filled with people who consider the things of God foolishness, but, ironically, the 'CD Christianity forum' attracts a large number of atheists/agnostics who come there to attack Christianity. Why shouldn't Christians come here to share the truth?
You can come here but can you really share any truth? You can make claims but can you back them up with hard evidence?
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Old 12-04-2018, 02:26 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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You can come here but can you really share any truth? You can make claims but can you back them up with hard evidence?
Of course. Faith. The evidence of things unseen and things fondly wished for. The only "Evidence" that matters,
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:10 AM
 
Location: West Virginia
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The spiritually blind are spiritually blind to their own spiritual blindness. It's a self-inflicted condition. -- In spite of your ridicule, there is hope, but, ask yourself, "What is the basis for what you consider true?" -- How reliable has that proven for you?

I know the atheism/agnostic forum is filled with people who consider the things of God foolishness, but, ironically, the 'CD Christianity forum' attracts a large number of atheists/agnostics who come there to attack Christianity. Why shouldn't Christians come here to share the truth?
Everyone is welcome to post here. When this sub-forum was created, over 10 years ago, the owner of City-Data decided that there was a particular way he wanted this sub-forum to operate. So, you are certainly welcome to come "share the truth" (as you said), as long as your posts conform to the owner's prohibition against proselytizing.

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This sub-forum is not the place for proselytizing or attempting to convert atheists or agnostics. It is meant for atheists and agnostics interested in discussions among themselves and for others who want to learn more about this worldview and are interested in posing non-confrontational questions to atheists or agnostics. Use our main Religion and Philosophy forum if you want to debate the merits of this worldview (but do a search first to see if your topics have already been discussed).
Did you notice that Administrator referred to the main Religion and Philosophy forum? Philosophy was moved into its own forum in 2012.
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Old 12-04-2018, 04:35 AM
 
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Omnipotent (omniscient, omnipresent) God has chosen to created mankind with TRUE FREE WILL.
If your god IS omniscient and omnipotent then TRUE FREE WILL is being able to make a decision that god can not know what that decision is. Free Will is just an illusion if there is an omnigod

Think!
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Parts Unknown, Northern California
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If your god IS omniscient and omnipotent then TRUE FREE WILL is being able to make a decision that god can not know what that decision is. Free Will is just an illusion if there is an omnigod

Think!
One may make a free will decision that is known to all without it being a forced choice, even if the choice involved accepting negative consequences.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:23 AM
 
Location: Elsewhere
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You start by trying to pick up 26 cards from the deck, you divide those cards into two stacks of 13 each. One stack is your hand, which you play first. After you get rid of all the cards in your hand, then you pick up the other stack of 13, which is your foot. Otherwise, it's very much like regular canasta, although typically you only play sets, not runs, although I have seen both done.
The way we played canasta used both sets and runs, but that is the first time I've heard of hand and foot. Thanks for the explanation.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:25 AM
 
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.... ask yourself, "What is the basis for what you consider true?" -- How reliable has that proven for you?
At last, questions that are easily answered!

My basis for what I consider to be true starts with testable hypotheses, verifiable evidence, reproducible observations, established facts.

And that has proven to be pretty darn reliable.
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Old 12-04-2018, 07:46 AM
 
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One may make a free will decision that is known to all without it being a forced choice, even if the choice involved accepting negative consequences.
At this very moment does god know, regardless of any choices I make, if my final destination is heaven or hell?

Be honest
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