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Old 03-11-2020, 06:36 AM
 
Location: S. Wales.
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"I'm pretty sure it would be difficult for me to keep a straight face. I find religious people slightly absurd."
"it would be a strain"


duly noted
That reminds me of my visit to Peru and seeing at Ollaytantambo (I think is right (1) a group of New Aguers being lectured of some spiritual miasma hovering over the place, and all being made to raise their arms, close their eyes and go: "Whah!" I had to be thankful to just be doing the Inca Valley with my Peru pal.

(1) Ollantaytambo (Quechua: Ullantaytampu). Close but no Burmese Cheroot.
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Old 03-11-2020, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I'm not saying it is going to happen with all going on but the plan now is to go.

And I didn't want to say something about hoping the virus gets worse.

Virus aside, is this going to be a miserable trip whenever it happens.
Yes.

You are an adult, yes? No one is putting you in chains and dragging you along, are they?

Make your own damn plan.
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Old 03-11-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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I'm not saying it is going to happen with all going on but the plan now is to go.

And I didn't want to say something about hoping the virus gets worse.

Virus aside, is this going to be a miserable trip whenever it happens.
Then plan for the Spring/Summer of 2021 or later.
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Old 03-11-2020, 11:54 AM
 
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Yes.

You are an adult, yes? No one is putting you in chains and dragging you along, are they?

Make your own damn plan.
Must you be so rude to the OP? I don't think she deserves that; she wanted input, not harsh condemnation. Like Grandstander and others, I don't think I could handle, very gracefully, extended time with a group of religious people, but it's her choice if she thinks she can.

In my case, they would smell a rat and nobody would be speaking to me after a while, anyway. Most people are so caught up with concerns about themselves, they really don't want to deal with an eccentric outlier. Too bad I'm not a better actress, because that is what it would take to hide my real self. Some people are better at hiding. I should probably work on it more. Might be fun. But some things just crack me up, too hilarious.
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Old 03-11-2020, 03:48 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Must you be so rude to the OP? I don't think she deserves that; she wanted input, not harsh condemnation. Like Grandstander and others, I don't think I could handle, very gracefully, extended time with a group of religious people, but it's her choice if she thinks she can.

.....
How many ways does one have to say that Israel is closed? There is link after link after link from the media that state Israel is closed. Israel has shut down most of it's airport and laying off 1000's. Hotels are closing. Birthright is cancelled. And to top it all off there is now a 14 day quarantine in place for everyone entering the country.

If the OP wants to put down a deposit that most likely will be cancelled, why bother? 1000's of flights are being cancelled. On top of all this the OP knows there is a worldwide panic going on, just look at their posting history.
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Old 03-11-2020, 04:09 PM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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Israel seals itself off from international travel

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...760_story.html
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Old 03-11-2020, 04:33 PM
 
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Personally, I'd not be able to do it.
Ever so often I am forced to go to a Penta church. Family responsibilities. Every time it is torturous. going onto such a trip, nahhhh..
I have very bad attitude towards hypocrisy. Just like Jesus had.
They will feel used and you will feel abused.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:01 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Must you be so rude to the OP? I don't think she deserves that; she wanted input, not harsh condemnation. Like Grandstander and others, I don't think I could handle, very gracefully, extended time with a group of religious people, but it's her choice if she thinks she can.

In my case, they would smell a rat and nobody would be speaking to me after a while, anyway. Most people are so caught up with concerns about themselves, they really don't want to deal with an eccentric outlier. Too bad I'm not a better actress, because that is what it would take to hide my real self. Some people are better at hiding. I should probably work on it more. Might be fun. But some things just crack me up, too hilarious.
Shrug. I get tired of adults saying that they HAVE to do things that they clearly don't have to do.

No, s/he doesn't HAVE to go to Israel, with or without a church group. I'm assuming that someone in her/his life is committing emotional blackmail.

Just say no.

Of course, as quite a few people here have noted, s/he has a great excuse to not commit to going. Absolutely NO ONE can predict the course of covid19.

But me? I'd just say, I'm not interested, but I hope you have a wonderful time, I'll be thinking of you, and I hope you take lots of pictures and share them with me.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:08 PM
 
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It's just that it's so common that people are rude. I'm pretty rude, myself, TBH. And no, I didn't check their posting history. How do you have time to do something like that?

There, see, I was rude.
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Old 03-11-2020, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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It's just that it's so common that people are rude. I'm pretty rude, myself, TBH. And no, I didn't check their posting history. How do you have time to do something like that?

There, see, I was rude.
I didn't need to check that poster's history so I didn't.

Why else besides emotional blackmail would an adult say "I don't want to go but I HAVE to"?
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