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From the "Freedom From Religion" organization, based on the WIN/Gallup International End Of Year Survey for 2017:
Poverty rate for 10 most religious countries: 29.2%
For the 10 least religious countries: 13.7%
Homicide rate for 10 most religious countries: 5.1/100,000
For the 10 least religious countries: 1.0/100,000
Freedom index for 10 most religious countries: 56.5
For the 10 least religious countries: 87.6
(Based on interviews in 68 countries).
This from an atheist, in 2017
"There is a problem within the atheist community of depression and suicide. I know we would all like to believe that atheists are happier people than religious believers and in many ways we are. But we also have to accept the reality that in some very important ways we are not."
I don't buy the argument that higher IQ people have higher instances of suicide and drug addiction. Terman's famous longitudinal study of people of genius also contradicts that. What he discovered is that "Terman's Termites," as they came to be called, had higher incomes, happier marriages, wrote more books, lived longer, and we're mentally healthier than average.
Studies sometimes are contradictory, but Terman is more accepted, I'd wager.
Poverty is related to religion. Thats fair enough. The more poor a country is the more I can see people going to religion.
Murder? high poverty, high murder,rate. But its the poverty causing the murders not the freedom of religion. So that one is just like a religion claiming all the good is from religion. Looking at mexico, central america, and south america, it aint religions fault.
Freedom? that would be in question. I don't see any more freedom in anti-religious states than I do theist run states.
need to provide the link to study or article for this information in opening post
whats the link gona prove? people that are anti-religious have sites that prove whatever they want just as much theist do. Neither really care about much past pushing their agenda on us.
I don't buy the argument that higher IQ people have higher instances of suicide and drug addiction. Terman's famous longitudinal study of people of genius also contradicts that. What he discovered is that "Terman's Termites," as they came to be called, had higher incomes, happier marriages, wrote more books, lived longer, and we're mentally healthier than average.
Studies sometimes are contradictory, but Terman is more accepted, I'd wager.
Lewis Terman
"A story of a different kind emerges from Terman's own writings -- a disturbing tale of the beliefs of a pioneer in psychology. Lewis Terman was a loving mentor, yes, but his ardent promotion of the gifted few was grounded in a cold-blooded, elitist ideology. Especially in the early years of his career, he was a proponent of eugenics, a social movement aiming to improve the human "breed" by perpetuating certain allegedly inherited traits and eliminating others. While championing the intelligent, he pushed for the forced sterilization of thousands of "feebleminded" Americans. Later in life, Terman backed away from eugenics, but he never publicly recanted his beliefs."
Neither the OP with dubious data and curious correlation reflect any kind of intelligence in the way conclusions are being drawn.
poverty and prosperity correlate more with GDP and corrupt administrations rather than religion.
birth rates and abortion rates do not correlate with wealth or women’s education. culture does
Neither the OP with dubious data and curious correlation reflect any kind of intelligence in the way conclusions are being drawn.
poverty and prosperity correlate more with GDP and corrupt administrations rather than religion.
birth rates and abortion rates do not correlate with wealth or women’s education. culture does
it is also a red flag when no link is provided regarding source of data
people with higher intelligence "suffer from a greater preponderance of emotional and mental health concerns." higher intelligence "is significantly correlated with unstable personality in substance abusers.”
A blog with no links to the papers, a 'seem to', a 'may', and no evidence intelligence is the cause.
You then go on and link to a paper that also says intelligence may or may not be a cause, and then the suicide paper used by Jeffbase that appears to refute your position, pointing to lack of social networking as the problem, not atheism.
And pointing out possible problems does no address the OP.
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