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I recall a book by Judith Hays a long time back. In it she asked the question of this thread. If my son dies in the military defending against foreign invaders, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If someone runs into a burning building to rescue a group of children and elderly and he dies of burns, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If an about to be mother has a condition where the child can be born alive and healthy only if she gives up her life in the process, then she sacrificed. She is dead and not coming back. If an animal is "sacrificed" on an alter, the animal is dead and not coming back. If Jesus was truly sacrificed for our sins then why is he back from the dead? He should have remained dead. Or is he actually still dead but is an animated zombie?
This seems like an odd place to pose this question.
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If this is the wrong place for this question, then please move it to a more proper place. But, I think some atheists can use this question in their "toolbox". Thank you.
I recall a book by Judith Hays a long time back. In it she asked the question of this thread. If my son dies in the military defending against foreign invaders, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If someone runs into a burning building to rescue a group of children and elderly and he dies of burns, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If an about to be mother has a condition where the child can be born alive and healthy only if she gives up her life in the process, then she sacrificed. She is dead and not coming back. If an animal is "sacrificed" on an alter, the animal is dead and not coming back. If Jesus was truly sacrificed for our sins then why is he back from the dead? He should have remained dead. Or is he actually still dead but is an animated zombie?
The Romans crucified MANY thousands of people that they considered to be enemies of the state. Even though He never called Himself a king, that is what He was convicted of.
If He would have remained dead, then He would be completely forgotten and NO ONE would even remember His name, let alone worship Him. When He rose from the dead and was seen by others, I guess you would call Him half man and half spirit - or something like that because He wasn't easily recognized.
An animated zombie - Really? Maybe He was a guest on "The Walking Dead".
In the future, it is said that He will return to be seen by everyone who is still alive - ending WWIII and saving the rest of humanity from annihilation.
If he was god he could have made it look like he was suffering on the cross while actually he was quite comfortable, maybe a little bored.
So, we don't know what was actually sacrificed, if anything. Anyone see any big change in human behavior before and after? If there was a sacrifice, it apparently didn't work.
The Romans crucified MANY thousands of people that they considered to be enemies of the state. Even though He never called Himself a king, that is what He was convicted of.
If He would have remained dead, then He would be completely forgotten and NO ONE would even remember His name, let alone worship Him. When He rose from the dead and was seen by others, I guess you would call Him half man and half spirit - or something like that because He wasn't easily recognized.
An animated zombie - Really? Maybe He was a guest on "The Walking Dead".
In the future, it is said that He will return to be seen by everyone who is still alive - ending WWIII and saving the rest of humanity from annihilation.
Swish!
That was the point passing right over your head.
So he was - in theory - "dead" for three days. So what did this immortal being actually sacrifice?
I've sacrificed far more time than that waiting in lines. So have you probably, and we're both mortal.
I recall a book by Judith Hays a long time back. In it she asked the question of this thread. If my son dies in the military defending against foreign invaders, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If someone runs into a burning building to rescue a group of children and elderly and he dies of burns, then he was sacrificed. He is dead and not coming back. If an about to be mother has a condition where the child can be born alive and healthy only if she gives up her life in the process, then she sacrificed. She is dead and not coming back. If an animal is "sacrificed" on an alter, the animal is dead and not coming back. If Jesus was truly sacrificed for our sins then why is he back from the dead? He should have remained dead. Or is he actually still dead but is an animated zombie?
yuppers.
he was dead in 8 hours and I am married over 30 years. he got off easy.
So he was - in theory - "dead" for three days. So what did this immortal being actually sacrifice?
I've sacrificed far more time than that waiting in lines. So have you probably, and we're both mortal.
You're not interested in hearing about "sins" so there is no point in wasting my time on that.
Since you want to talk about "waiting in lines" and another poster talked about his or her marriage (and actually He was on the cross for about 3 hours because He was whipped so badly that He must have been near death before the nails killed Him), He spent His entire life of 33 years knowing that He would have to die in this manner. He was the "goat" that needed to die for the rest of humanity for all of the years to come.
Another "sacrifice" that He had to make, was He would NEVER be able to know what it would be like to have sexual relations with a woman (or with another man - for those of you who prefer other men).
I realize that this probably doesn't "satisfy" your skepticism (aka - Swish - Your NEED to feel like you "won" again over a Christian) but O.K.
Thank You. I came to this forum last night out of curiosity. I saw this question and I decided to TRY to answer it in as less of a religious way as possible. Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
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