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hi all,
I have found an engaging book that I think many will find controversial. In the book, the author proposes a unique approach to nature. The book is called: The Philosopher's Sea, and is free on the website Smashwords.
I have a question about Chap. 13. In this chapter, the author claims that since the creator is undefined (which is established in previous chapters), the question about God's consciousness (as humans experience it) is meaningless. Now, in the book God is assumed to be everything, which we call nature. We all agree that nature exists. So, we left with a debate between atheists and non-atheists about the question of whether nature has consciousness or not. But this is a meaningless question since nature is undefined - I think this is the statement that appeared in the book.
What do you think about this perspective?
Does it open a new bridge between atheism and religions, as two parts of the same misconception about God and spiritual development?
No. It sounds like the sort of philosophical take on nature practiced by pantheistic, native groups. There is nothing new under the sun.
It often does seem that some of these wonderful new ideas (appearing in a wonderful new book ($ 75 on Amazon and in all leading bookshops) are old ideas in new words.
I think it's stupid, but obviously they conned you.
Nature is neither god nor conscious.
Would you like to know what the Grand Canyon or Niagara Falls are thinking?
I can tell you exactly what they're thinking: Nothing.
There are animals in Nature who possess the requisite brain structure and chemical compounds to process stimuli at a level that allows them to be aware of their own existence, but they are not gods, either.
There are no gods and never were and there are no need for any. And, even if that wasn't true, whatever you think god is it isn't.
That god doesn't even know you exist, doesn't give a damn about you, will never do a thing for you, and when you die, nothing will happen very slowly and you won't be going anywhere very slowly.
I think it's stupid, but obviously they conned you.
Nature is neither god nor conscious.
Would you like to know what the Grand Canyon or Niagara Falls are thinking?
I can tell you exactly what they're thinking: Nothing.
There are animals in Nature who possess the requisite brain structure and chemical compounds to process stimuli at a level that allows them to be aware of their own existence, but they are not gods, either.
There are no gods and never were and there are no need for any. And, even if that wasn't true, whatever you think god is it isn't.
That god doesn't even know you exist, doesn't give a damn about you, will never do a thing for you, and when you die, nothing will happen very slowly and you won't be going anywhere very slowly.
You are in for such a rude awakening I only wish I could be present when it happens!
I think it's stupid, but obviously they conned you.
Nature is neither god nor conscious.
Would you like to know what the Grand Canyon or Niagara Falls are thinking?
I can tell you exactly what they're thinking: Nothing.
There are animals in Nature who possess the requisite brain structure and chemical compounds to process stimuli at a level that allows them to be aware of their own existence, but they are not gods, either.
There are no gods and never were and there are no need for any. And, even if that wasn't true, whatever you think god is it isn't.
That god doesn't even know you exist, doesn't give a damn about you, will never do a thing for you, and when you die, nothing will happen very slowly and you won't be going anywhere very slowly.
is your big toe thinking? But we considered you aware.
the last part of your post is hate speech ... its basically ridiculous.
Yes, that is a consequence of a hyper religious state.
again, since I am more observation oriented, I say there is a list of personalities and events that definite people.
Look at a cluster-B personality and predict how they would present atheism and theism. Does it look like what we see here? they are in both camps. Only "religion-ist" type people ignore that fact. Only religion-ist people buy into ...
"Ok, they are there, but don't slow us down because we have the same goal and are here to help you too."
or, my favorite ... so what, there are only like ten of us. lmao ... that one is just funny.
I think it's stupid, but obviously they conned you.
Nature is neither god nor conscious.
Would you like to know what the Grand Canyon or Niagara Falls are thinking?
I can tell you exactly what they're thinking: Nothing.
There are animals in Nature who possess the requisite brain structure and chemical compounds to process stimuli at a level that allows them to be aware of their own existence, but they are not gods, either.
There are no gods and never were and there are no need for any. And, even if that wasn't true, whatever you think god is it isn't.
That god doesn't even know you exist, doesn't give a damn about you, will never do a thing for you, and when you die, nothing will happen very slowly and you won't be going anywhere very slowly.
I'm afraid dissing nature like this might get you a bolt of lightening.
The topic is (essentially) about God -consciousness, not ours and in what part our big toe is connected to that. Try to stay on topic.
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