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And just what are atheists fighting against? Or for?
And imagine how you would react of I made a broad and inaccurate statement about Brown or Hindu or Asian people based on a number of internet interactions.
LOL. I am not sure if this is a joke or a threat. You go right ahead Badlander.
And just what are atheists fighting against? Or for?
And imagine how you would react of I made a broad and inaccurate statement about Brown or Hindu or Asian people based on a number of internet interactions.
this is intellectual dishonesty badland. Some atheist are fighting against religion here, in this very site. A site about the reliability of beliefs.
Some of us are just seeking to get a grip on what is what. Some of us have enough experience to process information to try and help people be the best they can be without inserting what we want to real. We do not have to lead them away from anything.
Maybe you can PM me to try to justify this, if you don't want to say it in public.
this is intellectual dishonesty badland. Some atheist are fighting against religion here, in this very site. A site about the reliability of beliefs.
Some of us are just seeking to get a grip on what is what. Some of us have enough experience to process information to try and help people be the best they can be without inserting what we want to real. We do not have to lead them away from anything.
Maybe you can PM me to try to justify this, if you don't want to say it in public.
Do you claim. Not taking your claims as facts is not dishonest. Are you speaking about the atheists sub forum? Is this forum about the realibilty of beliefs or about atheists and atheism?
Read my last sentence. Even if some atheists are doing what you claim it is inaccurate to claim that atheists do this? But this type of bigotry you ignore because you seem bent on attacking atheists only and all the time.
Do you claim. Not taking your claims as facts is not dishonest. Are you speaking about the atheists sub forum? Is this forum about the realibilty of beliefs or about atheists and atheism?
Read my last sentence. Even if some atheists are doing what you claim it is inaccurate to claim that atheists do this? But this type of bigotry you ignore because you seem bent on attacking atheists only and all the time.
I never said they are facts son. So get it right first.
And yes, But I am not attacking, I am questioning atheist. Because that's what I know and understand.
I apply the same logic to atheist as I do theist.
What would you say to a theist that says ...
"I don't know squat so I believe you are wrong"
or if they said
"I don't know squat but I lack belief in what you are saying."
now keep in mind, I don't mean at first. I mean 100's to 1000's of posts over years and years. Some even across many sites.
Clarification : I am not trying to equate Brhman and God. God is an English word for a Creator of the universe. Brahman does not create, it is existence. There may or may not be a relationship but I don't know if this line of discussion has any relevance to atheism. At least I don't believe there is one.
The relevance is the different claims about existence (Brhman), was it created by a god, is it a god, or is it godless?
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Originally Posted by cb2008
If you saying atheism is against and denies God, and only God as in the dictionary we are having an entirely different conversation. (Actually many American atheists also a have pet aversion to Allah and Islam even if their knowledge of it is shallow) In that case Atheism denies only the western christian God. But God, the concept, still exists in different forms, names, religions, cultures all over the entire world.
In that case Atheism is even less logical if that is possible.
Lol, atheism is not logical because you are ignorant about a very simple concept.
And you need to demonstrate logically where atheism is illogical, not just use some fallacy. Because I have logically shown gods are not required to explain existence, or why we are here. And man, did the religious dance, evade, duck, weave, as they usually do.
The relevance is the different claims about existence (Brhman), was it created by a god, is it a god, or is it godless?
Lol, atheism is not logical because you are ignorant about a very simple concept.
And you need to demonstrate logically where atheism is illogical, not just use some fallacy. Because I have logically shown gods are not required to explain existence, or why we are here. And man, did the religious dance, evade, duck, weave, as they usually do.
I never said they are facts son. So get it right first.
And yes, But I am not attacking, I am questioning atheist. Because that's what I know and understand.
I apply the same logic to atheist as I do theist.
What would you say to a theist that says ...
"I don't know squat so I believe you are wrong"
or if they said
"I don't know squat but I lack belief in what you are saying."
now keep in mind, I don't mean at first. I mean 100's to 1000's of posts over years and years. Some even across many sites.
What would you say to them?
Read the Announcement posted in the main R&S forum in March 2022. Don't mention again how many posts a member has made or how long they have been posting. It is irrelevant.
I agree there is logic in the structure of language. Just no logic in what atheists are fighting against.
In some instances, the "fight" is against a person's thinking. In other instances, the promotion of that thinking. This is not isolated to just atheists, though. It happens because words have meaning and hidden meaning.
Last edited by elyn02; 06-20-2022 at 05:24 AM..
Reason: added "the "fight" is against" for clarification
This thread asks the question whether atheists want to end or stop religion. The basic answer is "no". And yet there seems to be some confusion about what "no" means, with some people telling us it means in some sense "yes", making irrelevant complaints that atheism makes no sense to them and therefore can't possibly make sense to anyone else, etc.
I have no idea what purpose this thread even serves anymore, if it is nothing but a meaningless "did so!" "did not!" back-and-forth. Does anyone actually want to discuss the thread topic, or are we going to permit some people to degrade every thread they don't like into some tone police discussion about what people should or should not think or say?
And let me spare them the effort, I'm sure the rejoinder will be the gaslighting / projection that I am now policing what they should think or say. I just want to stay a little more on topic than this. That is the purpose of forum structure and moderation. In my view these rabbit trails are just an effort to derail in any way possible from that.
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