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Old 06-21-2022, 07:01 AM
 
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Again, you're talking about several different things in one sentence. I clearly showed you that US laws are not based on religion. Laws that had no use other than to appease the religious are usually repealed or overturned, as has happened with Blue Laws and laws against cohabitation.

I'm not responding to the rest of your comments. They are irrelevant to what I said.
I dont respond to reductive reasoning therefore i will not address the issue of what laws are made and what laws are repealed and for what reason.
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:13 AM
 
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I don’t know and i am not attributing motives here. My instinctive reaction to it is that the exhortation is nationalism and many do not understand the harm in mixing religion and statehood. May God bless us all, is something i am more comfortable with.
Yes, "may" is a modal verb in English and is one of the few ways the language shows formality whereas in other languages formality clearer and commonly used. I don't have an issue with it either. However, I would say that a person who says it is not necessarily inspired by religion. I think it is just one way to signify a lower status. We don't have kings or emperors and it would be silly to say "May our president bless us".
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Old 06-21-2022, 07:34 AM
 
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Yes, "may" is a modal verb in English and is one of the few ways the language shows formality whereas in other languages formality clearer and commonly used. I don't have an issue with it either. However, I would say that a person who says it is not necessarily inspired by religion. I think it is just one way to signify a lower status. We don't have kings or emperors and it would be silly to say "May our president bless us".
That is a rather unusual way to look at it, but ok.
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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You don't want links or quotes. I don't have time to watch videos.

None of the rest of what you have said responds to my post. I was responding to your claim that our laws ar based on religion. That claims is clearly refuted. Now you are talking about Evangelicals and political parties, the Pledge of Allegiance, and President Obama singing in a church. Back to your assertion that laws are based on religion. Your claim is still soundly refuted.
Can you imagine???? Someone singing a hymn in church!
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Old 06-21-2022, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Sun City West, Arizona
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Again, you're talking about several different things in one sentence. I clearly showed you that US laws are not based on religion. Laws that had no use other than to appease the religious are usually repealed or overturned, as has happened with Blue Laws and laws against cohabitation.

I'm not responding to the rest of your comments. They are irrelevant to what I said.
The recent term for the practice is gaslighting.
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Old 06-21-2022, 09:18 AM
 
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That is a rather unusual way to look at it, but ok.
I try, cb. I try to leave God out of it and focus on human behavior.
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Old 06-22-2022, 07:08 AM
 
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Again, you're talking about several different things in one sentence. I clearly showed you that US laws are not based on religion. Laws that had no use other than to appease the religious are usually repealed or overturned, as has happened with Blue Laws and laws against cohabitation.

I'm not responding to the rest of your comments. They are irrelevant to what I said.
Like a southern Baptist showed god created the earth in 6 days, maybe. A church full of followers stand up and cheer. clearly it is shown that most people believ in some thing more and the laws are actually based on some of the core beliefs held by believers. They over lap for obvious reasons.

Even if the laws are based on "we better not allow one religion to run the show." That is a law based on religion.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:24 PM
 
Location: equator
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"Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war..."
LOL. I detest that old hoary trope. More progressive churches that song.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:26 PM
 
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Define "True Religion".
Do you have any personal experience with Evangelical con men who are buying jet planes?
Don't need personal experience. They are loud and proud about their Gulfstreams and mansions all over the place. That news is everywhere and they are not hiding it. More hypocritical "Christians" could not be found.
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Old 06-22-2022, 01:32 PM
 
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Don't need personal experience. They are loud and proud about their Gulfstreams and mansions all over the place. That news is everywhere and they are not hiding it. More hypocritical "Christians" could not be found.
Are there any more louder and prouder and in number than those who are past Presidents of nations, judges, AG, Senators, CEO and any number of other professions and businesses that have cheated on taxes, hiding money abroad, and all other ways they can defraud?
Why should people who practice a religion alone be different than human? They are not they can be as greedy as anyone else.

If you believed otherwise you should read more news.
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