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Well I could be wrong but it looks lie Prycejosh1987 <<cut>>, read the first post in each thread, and put in his 2 cents about that first post in each thread. In other words, a bunch of drive-by posts that have zero actual engagement. And by his own words, he's like several other believers here both regular and transient who think they alone have distilled the Vital Synthesis that will set everyone right if only they will quit being stubborn.
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Reason: Rule violation (off his meds?)
Well I could be wrong but it looks lie Prycejosh1987 <<cut>>, read the first post in each thread, and put in his 2 cents about that first post in each thread. In other words, a bunch of drive-by posts that have zero actual engagement. And by his own words, he's like several other believers here both regular and transient who think they alone have distilled the Vital Synthesis that will set everyone right if only they will quit being stubborn.
It was a very shoot from the hip SERIES of posts. An 'I'll show them' type of posts.
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Religion *has* encouraged some redeeming values, as in the times of old. People looking at nature to try and understand the world, people looking at the sky to try and understand the universe, people looking at the weather to understand patterns and what might be called rudimentary science. Something that gets people to ponder and review isn't a bad trait.
Even with science and technology now, there is still a lot of searching that goes on in people of all kinds, inwardly and outwardly.
Of course, like many areas, there is a negative / unhealthy side to religion. But if we threw out everything just because of negative tendencies, we'd probably have nothing left. Get rid of cars because they occasionally kill people, have no law enforcement due to bad cops, etc.
Of course, like many areas, there is a negative / unhealthy side to religion. But if we threw out everything just because of negative tendencies, we'd probably have nothing left. Get rid of cars because they occasionally kill people, have no law enforcement due to bad cops, etc.
I don't accept that religion is like a car -- just this neutral thing that (1) works and (2) can be used for good or ill. It is based on a particular theory of knowledge, involving belief in things that cannot be evidenced. Rather like a car with no wheels that you have to "just believe" will get you somewhere, eventually, after you die. I suggest that religion does not inherently work and so even when used for good it is basically bucking you up in the face of its complete failure to deliver on its own value propositions. You have plenty of company, and common experiences, which is not nothing -- but to what end?
This is a charge that is made weekly, if not almost daily, by some christian and even a warped atheist. So for the rest of us atheists, is that your goal -- to "stop" or "end" religion?
Yes, if it will end human suffering (which it will in great part.)
I don't have to "stop" religion. I just have to end government involvement and support of religion.
What history proves to us is that any religion that is not backed or supported by a government falls to the wayside and gets converted to "myth."
Yes, if it will end human suffering (which it will in great part.)
I don't have to "stop" religion. I just have to end government involvement and support of religion.
What history proves to us is that any religion that is not backed or supported by a government falls to the wayside and gets converted to "myth."
I am all for ending suffering. I am not sure history proves anything about how to end suffering. Take China. A whole lot of suffering going on there for the Uighur.
Yes, if it will end human suffering (which it will in great part.)
I don't have to "stop" religion. I just have to end government involvement and support of religion.
What history proves to us is that any religion that is not backed or supported by a government falls to the wayside and gets converted to "myth."
i disagree. Judaism is not backed or supported by government. in fact throughout history the OPPOSITE has been in place, governments and leaders in country after country after country have actively and repeatedly sought to destroy Judaism and the Jewish people and governments have done everything in their power to remove them and drive them out. However here we are . We are still here. Those governments and leaders have fallen, but Judaism and the Jewish people are still here as we have been for the past 3,800 years.
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Yes, when God is used as a tool for human social control. Even so, forcing religious based teachings on non practicing individuals. Some religions might reward human killings, and war. This I would like to suppress.
This is my take as well.
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