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Old 10-16-2021, 03:52 PM
 
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RELIGION derived out of intuition - God/Spirit given sense, it is a part of Human essence. religions partially invented by man for profit.
That's close to how I see it as well. I wouldn't call that essence religion tho. Some religious traditions seem to nourish it and some seem to steal it and hold it hostage.
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Old 10-16-2021, 04:09 PM
 
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That's close to how I see it as well. I wouldn't call that essence religion tho. Some religious traditions seem to nourish it and some seem to steal it and hold it hostage.
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:39 PM
 
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That's close to how I see it as well. I wouldn't call that essence religion tho. Some religious traditions seem to nourish it and some seem to steal it and hold it hostage.
long time ago humans were connected to Spirit world, natural clairvoyance (like Abraham's) was a common thing. now days it is rare to a point that they made a circus out of it. It still here, in much weaker form, some still called 'gift of God". That the way God made humanity - half spirit half Mendeleev's table.
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:46 PM
 
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long time ago humans were connected to Spirit world, natural clairvoyance (like Abraham's) was a common thing. now days it is rare to a point that they made a circus out of it. It still here, in much weaker form, some still called 'gift of God". That the way god made humanity - half spirit half Mendeleev's table.
I have no knowledge if that's true or not. I do like to read about the healing power of psychedelics. I know we experience the world differently when parts of our brain are silenced.
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:50 PM
 
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I have no knowledge if that's true or not. I do like to read about the healing power of psychedelics. I know we experience the world differently when parts of our brain are silenced.
It is all in the Bible. (no need to to go to extra sources).
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Old 10-16-2021, 05:54 PM
 
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It is all in the Bible. (no need to to go to extra sources).
I don't remember that but it's hardly worth debating especially since you are on the AA part of the forum. I did hear something about the Bicameral mind but I thought that was debunked.
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Old 10-18-2021, 09:18 AM
 
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That's close to how I see it as well. I wouldn't call that essence religion tho. Some religious traditions seem to nourish it and some seem to steal it and hold it hostage.
Good posts, both. I agree.
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Old 10-18-2021, 10:16 AM
 
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I don't remember that but it's hardly worth debating especially since you are on the AA part of the forum. I did hear something about the Bicameral mind but I thought that was debunked.
i doubt it can be 100% debunked. some elements may be debated.
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Old 10-18-2021, 11:09 AM
 
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i doubt it can be 100% debunked. some elements may be debated.
The theory of the Bicameral Mind is Jaynes's 1976 explanation of the origin of consciousness which has been modified by more knowledge of the evolution of the corpus callosum in placental mammals but NOT debunked! Brain lateralization is real and it seems to be a function of "bandwidth" restrictions in the corpus callosum.

This is analogous to the different bandwidth requirements to transmit images versus text on the internet. Larger brain sizes slow the synchronous transmission across hemispheres because of the longer axonal distances resulting in the evolution of brain lateralization. This is a simplified analogy NOT a rigorous scientific explanation, but it is essentially correct.
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Old 10-18-2021, 09:46 PM
 
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The theory of the Bicameral Mind is Jaynes's 1976 explanation of the origin of consciousness which has been modified by more knowledge of the evolution of the corpus callosum in placental mammals but NOT debunked! Brain lateralization is real and it seems to be a function of "bandwidth" restrictions in the corpus callosum.

This is analogous to the different bandwidth requirements to transmit images versus text on the internet. Larger brain sizes slow the synchronous transmission across hemispheres because of the longer axonal distances resulting in the evolution of brain lateralization. This is a simplified analogy NOT a rigorous scientific explanation, but it is essentially correct.
thanks, i was sure of that, i think his theory has much deeper roots - to Torah. I have it on tape Have to listen again. I think i grasp its significance fairly well. Generally, i am very skeptical of debunkers especially if subject is serious.
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