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Old 10-20-2021, 10:34 AM
 
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To remind everyone who began characterizing believers as credulous dolts, I requoted his post. IF you can't stand the heat don't start the fire. The uncertainty and speculation are rife on the frontiers of science and it is increasingly pointing toward "woo." There is NO solid evidence that tells us what the unknown IS, so any firm belief about what it is or is not does not have any foundation.
I didn't catch that post thanks for the clarification. My bad. I agree if he drew first blood, the gloves coming off is warranted.
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Old 10-20-2021, 04:44 PM
 
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I didn't catch that post thanks for the clarification. My bad. I agree if he drew first blood, the gloves coming off is warranted.
There are posters here that that hit first then blame others when the reply is in kind. And when their statement of belief doesn't hold up they run away.

The plain example is a person that believes in past lives, via the same flawed logic that theist's use, but is ready to "attack" any belief that may call them and their behavior in question. Which isn't so bad, but they personally insult people and then blame the other person when the their bully tactic's and group assaults' don't work.

They demand logic and proof, then when they can't back it up ... they attack. Usually on a personal level.
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Old 10-20-2021, 07:56 PM
 
Location: minnesota
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There are posters here that that hit first then blame others when the reply is in kind. And when their statement of belief doesn't hold up they run away.

The plain example is a person that believes in past lives, via the same flawed logic that theist's use, but is ready to "attack" any belief that may call them and their behavior in question. Which isn't so bad, but they personally insult people and then blame the other person when the their bully tactic's and group assaults' don't work.

They demand logic and proof, then when they can't back it up ... they attack. Usually on a personal level.
I wonder who misses Trans more? You or Phet?
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Old 10-21-2021, 06:21 PM
 
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But let's be honest: The New Atheism is desperate to portray all this as woo-woo, unworthy of belief by anyone this side of a credulous dolt.
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To remind everyone who began characterizing believers as credulous dolts, I requoted his post. IF you can't stand the heat don't start the fire. The uncertainty and speculation are rife on the frontiers of science and it is increasingly pointing toward "woo." There is NO solid evidence that tells us what the unknown IS, so any firm belief about what it is or is not does not have any foundation.
For the record, Jack McCullough's remark about credulous dolts was simply quoting my post #4 above. He even put the phrase in quotation marks. My post does accurately summarize the New Atheist gospel, and there can be no dispute about this.
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Old 10-21-2021, 07:54 PM
 
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For the record, Jack McCullough's remark about credulous dolts was simply quoting my post #4 above. He even put the phrase in quotation marks. My post does accurately summarize the New Atheist gospel, and there can be no dispute about this.
He made no such attribution to you and seems to adopt it as his own atheist view.
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Old 10-23-2021, 06:35 PM
 
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I don't miss him at all. He is attacks America and American beliefs no matter what. he never cared about right, wrong, true, or false. he was only paid to attack.

To bad he targeted scarred and recovery types. That's the difference, he doesn't care, they are used as smart bombs.

The other is a light weight. the only way their idea can stand any kind of a chance is to ignore any challenges. And of course, use the emotion of recovery and scarring as a mob.
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:14 AM
 
Location: minnesota
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I don't miss him at all. He is attacks America and American beliefs no matter what. he never cared about right, wrong, true, or false. he was only paid to attack.

To bad he targeted scarred and recovery types. That's the difference, he doesn't care, they are used as smart bombs.

The other is a light weight. the only way their idea can stand any kind of a chance is to ignore any challenges. And of course, use the emotion of recovery and scarring as a mob.
I didn't get that from him. He was very logical in his approach and he helped me unravel some of that emotional reasoning I had been indoctrinated to.
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:35 AM
 
Location: Germany
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I didn't get that from him. He was very logical in his approach and he helped me unravel some of that emotional reasoning I had been indoctrinated to.
Oh, that post was about the straw man version of Trans. Following a post about Jack McCullough, I was confused.
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:39 AM
 
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Oh, that post was about the straw man version of Trans. Following a post about Jack McCullough, I was confused.
Who is Jack?
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Old 10-24-2021, 06:49 AM
 
Location: Germany
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Who is Jack?
Exactly. He wrote post 65.
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