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I have never seen this, maybe some of you have but this is me. I am her. Same passion, same emphasis, same voice that gets higher and saying the same things that I say here.....in so many words. There is one word that may or may not offend some.
I had not seen this but appreciate your sharing it with us.
I spend Sunday evenings watching the Line, Sunday Show, Atheist experience etc While I like Matt Dillahunty, his shows are always the same. There are other atheist leaders who bring a more interesting argument rather than just pointing out that "There is no evidence" over and over again.
I would like to sit down sometime and write out my own "Ah-Ha" moments that have guided and inspired me in life. While I once thought that I was alone with my thinking and philosophy, then I discovered the atheist community, recovering from religion and the skeptics society and realized that I share many experiences and beliefs with others.
I have said over and over again that I do not care what the Bible says about anything. However, some religious people just do not get this.And I have told religious people over and over again
1 Your beliefs do not allow you to dictate how I live my life
2 I am not interested in your religion because I do not want to be like you.
There is nothing to argue with in what she said! Religious belief is entirely for the individuals that hold those beliefs, period! A secular society is NOT and should NOT be governed by religious beliefs. God does not need nor want our enforcement of anything. because "forced" compliance is pointless! It does not reflect what kind of person the individual has BECOME!
I have never seen this, maybe some of you have but this is me. I am her. Same passion, same emphasis, same voice that gets higher and saying the same things that I say here.....in so many words. There is one word that may or may not offend some.
I had not seen this but appreciate your sharing it with us.
I spend Sunday evenings watching the Line, Sunday Show, Atheist experience etc While I like Matt Dillahunty, his shows are always the same. There are other atheist leaders who bring a more interesting argument rather than just pointing out that "There is no evidence" over and over again.
I would like to sit down sometime and write out my own "Ah-Ha" moments that have guided and inspired me in life. While I once thought that I was alone with my thinking and philosophy, then I discovered the atheist community, recovering from religion and the skeptics society and realized that I share many experiences and beliefs with others.
I have said over and over again that I do not care what the Bible says about anything. However, some religious people just do not get this.And I have told religious people over and over again
1 Your beliefs do not allow you to dictate how I live my life
2 I am not interested in your religion because I do not want to be like you.
I know, reminds me of a "friend" of mine who I ask not to do things or say vulgar things to me and others. For example. I've asked, begged, pleaded and even yelled at him because he won't respect my boundaries. This is someone who I have blocked on both phones, on social media because he calls so many times during the day and extremely early in the morning. It matters not what I ask, he just keeps on.
It's a long story why I put up with his insanity and narcissism. It's all coming to an end shortly though. Now, this is a fine example of what it's like to be accosted, bombarded, and disrespected, where I live, by persistent, annoying, no respecter of boundaries proselytizing, to atheists of all things. It does not matter at all when you respectfully ask, forcefully ask, demand, put 'em in a choke hold.....those proselytizers are going to save your soul whether you like it or not.
Me too, I would love to know or remember, actually, when that very first a-ha moment happened as far as losing my belief. I don't remember because it was 15 years ago, but I am now an atheist because that initial lightbulb moment.
That girl rocked it, I'm going to watch more of her videos and the ones you mentioned. I've got to find some intelligent people to listen to, if I can't know any atheists/agnostics/witches/any other non-proselytizing people in real life and have intelligent conversations then I'll just listen to others having intelligent conversations.
I have said over and over again that I do not care what the Bible says about anything. However, some religious people just do not get this.And I have told religious people over and over again
1 Your beliefs do not allow you to dictate how I live my life
2 I am not interested in your religion because I do not want to be like you.
The histrionic diatribe in the OP's video is just that, a mindless histrionic diatribe. Put essentially the same histrionics in the mouth of an anti-atheist or anti-Muslim Christian, and I and most other Christians would wince and be embarrassed. Only the hardcore fringe would be favotably impressed.
The real issue concerns competing claims about ultimate Truth, not competing lifetstyles or political agendas.
Statement #2 above - "I am not interested in your religion because I do not want to be like you" - falsely assumes that Christians are all alike. Indeed, "you" appears to refer to all "religious people." The poster would prefer to be like any irreligious person that any religious person? Really?
More fundamentally, the core issue with any religion, or atheism for that matter, is Truth. Does the belief system correspond to ultimate reality? Whether Truth produces people we "want to be like" is irrelevant to anyone whose quest is to get as close to Truth as is humanly possible.
Statement #1 above likewise suffers from faulty reasoning. Atheists love to assume the default position for humanity is that there is no Truth, there is no morality apart from personal opinion, all lifestyles are equally valid, and everyone should be free to follow his or her own path without interference. But, of course, there is no default position. There are only competing claims about ultimate Truth.
Christians do not get to dictate how atheists or Hindus live their lives any more than atheists or Hindus get to dictate how Christians live their lives. All, however, do get to attempt to influence legislation and public opinion to reflect their respective understandings of ultimate Truth. Christians are as free to spread their Truth, including the truth of the Bible as God's word, as others are to promote their own scriptures and texts and ridicule the Bible as nonsense.
Part and parcel of the Christian understanding of ultimate Truth is a mandate to spread the Gospel to a lost world. That mandate includes warnings that Christians will suffer rejection, persecution and worse. As Christians carry out this mandate, they are obviously going to butt heads with those who don't want to hear the message or have conflicting understandings of Truth. The atheist and humanist communuties are just as interested in "dictating" their understandings of Truth as are Christians, Muslims and other religious people. The atheist understanding of Truth is such that it allows them to pretend they are preaching tolerance and not really attempting to dictate anything, but we see this lie exposed over and over - including in the video in the first post.
I'm always a bit surprised at how consistently the atheist community falls into the same traps of faulty reasoning as do many "religious people." This can only be, I believe, because atheism occupies precisely the same place in the lives of many atheists as religion does in the lives of many religious believers. It blinds the individual to critical thinking and even rational thinking.
The OP thinks the video is fantastic and impressive. Put the exact same histrionics in the mouth of a young Christian blonde in a red dress who rants about how sick she is of atheists and their ridicule of biblical morality, then see how fantastic and impressive it sounds. Sure, some Christians would lap it up, but the vast majority would wince and recognize it as nothing more than a histrionic diatribe that says nothing of substance and is ultimately counterproductive to the spread of the Gospel message.
The histrionic diatribe in the OP's video is just that, a mindless histrionic diatribe. Put essentially the same histrionics in the mouth of an anti-atheist or anti-Muslim Christian, and I and most other Christians would wince and be embarrassed. Only the hardcore fringe would be favotably impressed.
The real issue concerns competing claims about ultimate Truth, not competing lifetstyles or political agendas.
Statement #2 above - "I am not interested in your religion because I do not want to be like you" - falsely assumes that Christians are all alike. Indeed, "you" appears to refer to all "religious people." The poster would prefer to be like any irreligious person that any religious person? Really?
More fundamentally, the core issue with any religion, or atheism for that matter, is Truth. Does the belief system correspond to ultimate reality? Whether Truth produces people we "want to be like" is irrelevant to anyone whose quest is to get as close to Truth as is humanly possible.
Statement #1 above likewise suffers from faulty reasoning. Atheists love to assume the default position for humanity is that there is no Truth, there is no morality apart from personal opinion, all lifestyles are equally valid, and everyone should be free to follow his or her own path without interference. But, of course, there is no default position. There are only competing claims about ultimate Truth.
Christians do not get to dictate how atheists or Hindus live their lives any more than atheists or Hindus get to dictate how Christians live their lives. All, however, do get to attempt to influence legislation and public opinion to reflect their respective understandings of ultimate Truth. Christians are as free to spread their Truth, including the truth of the Bible as God's word, as others are to promote their own scriptures and texts and ridicule the Bible as nonsense.
Part and parcel of the Christian understanding of ultimate Truth is a mandate to spread the Gospel to a lost world. That mandate includes warnings that Christians will suffer rejection, persecution and worse. As Christians carry out this mandate, they are obviously going to butt heads with those who don't want to hear the message or have conflicting understandings of Truth. The atheist and humanist communuties are just as interested in "dictating" their understandings of Truth as are Christians, Muslims and other religious people. The atheist understanding of Truth is such that it allows them to pretend they are preaching tolerance and not really attempting to dictate anything, but we see this lie exposed over and over - including in the video in the first post.
I'm always a bit surprised at how consistently the atheist community falls into the same traps of faulty reasoning as do many "religious people." This can only be, I believe, because atheism occupies precisely the same place in the lives of many atheists as religion does in the lives of many religious believers. It blinds the individual to critical thinking and even rational thinking.
The OP thinks the video is fantastic and impressive. Put the exact same histrionics in the mouth of a young Christian blonde in a red dress who rants about how sick she is of atheists and their ridicule of biblical morality, then see how fantastic and impressive it sounds. Sure, some Christians would lap it up, but the vast majority would wince and recognize it as nothing more than a histrionic diatribe that says nothing of substance and is ultimately counterproductive to the spread of the Gospel message.
So you actually believe that your belief/religion is based on "ultimate Truth". So, are you reading the atheist sub-forum in order to chastise people or to get an understanding of why people do not choose the same beliefs you do? It seems you are here to chastise and denigrate people who don't believe the same as you.
Even as a christian you should understand that is none of your business what anyone else believes unless they are in your face, like some christians tend to be when they think they have found someone who "needs to be saved". I don't see athiests telling christians that they will burn in hell unless they change their beliefs. I don't see muslims or budhists or hindu doing that either, only christians.
Part and parcel of the Christian understanding of ultimate Truth is a mandate to spread the Gospel to a lost world. That mandate includes warnings that Christians will suffer rejection, persecution and worse. As Christians carry out this mandate, they are obviously going to butt heads with those who don't want to hear the message or have conflicting understandings of Truth. The atheist and humanist communuties are just as interested in "dictating" their understandings of Truth as are Christians, Muslims and other religious people.
This is an absolute lie from the pit of hell. LOL.
Atheists have no "mandate". If they want to get in your face... they can. If they don't want to... they don't have to.
We do what we want... when we want... in regards to how we approach dealing with belief and non belief.
You come across as the type of person I'd probably enjoy debating with regarding the topic. But only if I felt like it.
I certainly don't feel any need to try to change your way of thinking... and I don't need to either.....
... since we are all going to be maggot meat in the end.
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I too like her and the rest of Young Turks too
