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Originally Posted by CorporateCowboy View Post Is it really about ‘respectful atheism’ or self-respect, as a whole, relative to how we treat theists (and other folks as well). It’s a matter of common decency and acceptance.
It was not asking a question but telling atheists we should afford religious theists and Bible -apologists a respect we tend not to get from them. You are yet again batting for the other team.
Is it really about ‘respectful atheism’ or self-respect, as a whole, relative to how we treat theists (and other folks as well). It’s a matter of common decency and acceptance.
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Originally Posted by TRANSPONDER
It was not asking a question but telling atheists we should afford religious theists and Bible -apologists a respect we tend not to get from them. You are yet again batting for the other team.
Trans, your feathers are ruffled again; I was speaking to confidence, intelligence and self-respect in how we treat other folks, as a whole, as opposed to having a special label i.e. ‘respectful atheism’. I’m certainly not suggesting all theists are respectful (lol) but, from my perspective, you can’t be content/happy or respect yourself if what they say matters to you on an emotionally personal level (or consider every statement about confidence/self-respect in who we are, as atheists or people, to be ‘batting for the other team’). It works both ways, obviously.
That said, there are bigger battles to be fought (vs. the religious right) relative to their strong support of socially conservative and traditionalist policies while folks in here are arguing (daily) what Joe Baptist says in a thread. It’s laughable, really. In other words, is it about respectful atheism, in and of itself, or common sense in terms of the Constitution. (Yep, another rhetorical question.)
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Trans, your feathers are ruffled again; I was speaking to confidence, intelligence and self-respect in how we treat other folks, as a whole, as opposed to having a special label i.e. ‘respectful atheism’. I’m certainly not suggesting all theists are respectful (lol) but, from my perspective, you can’t be content/happy or respect yourself if what they say matters to you on an emotionally personal level (or consider every statement about confidence/self-respect in who we are, as atheists or people, to be ‘batting for the other team’). It works both ways, obviously.
That said, there are bigger battles to be fought (vs. the religious right) relative to their strong support of socially conservative and traditionalist policies while folks in here are arguing (daily) what Joe Baptist says in a thread. It’s laughable, really. In other words, is it about respectful atheism, in and of itself, or common sense in terms of the Constitution. (Yep, another rhetorical question.)
Since almost everything the rest of us think about religion - versus - atheism is 'laughable' to you, it's odd that you want to continue to interact with the rest of us.
You like to talk about how we treat others. Well? We keep telling you how we feel about post about us...and you show no concern whatsoever.
Since almost everything the rest of us think about religion - versus - atheism is 'laughable' to you, it's odd that you want to continue to interact with the rest of us.
You like to talk about how we treat others. Well? We keep telling you how we feel about post about us...and you show no concern whatsoever.
I rarely read any of it (or contribute) relative to the represented mentality, other than a few subjects which caught my eye recently i.e. this one and a thread on Christmas. That said, the difference in my approach (vs. other atheists) is your/their angry anti-theism, as a whole; it’s evident in all threads, even the aforementioned. Hence, yeah, it’s laughable when an atheist can’t lightly discuss the holiday sans having to hear about the Bible and religion (from other atheists, no less).
That said, what do you mean by I ‘show no concern whatsoever’? I’m simply expressing my opinion in a thread that appears to somewhat align with my perspective (although I am not familiar with the book), and I’m foolishly/angrily told I’m ’batting for the other team’. Yeah, again, it’s laughable.
CC, you profess respect/tolerance but often fail to demonstrate it. The disconnect between your ideals and the actual content of your posts is somewhat, um, laughable and certainly noticeable to all those who've interacted with you regularly in recent times. I'd contend that all humans are hypocrites to some degree or another, but it is the duty of the lesser hypocrites to hold to account those who display greater amounts of hypocrisy. Unlike Transponder, I do not suspect you're some closet right-winger; I just think you're tone-deaf to how your own comments are likely to be perceived by your ostensible allies. Even though it should be obvious. Or perhaps you're indifferent, which is worse.
In other news, I just finished Kate Cohen's book 'We of Little Faith'. Quick and worthwhile read. Maybe to ruffle CC's feathers some more in the future, I'll start sprinkling into my posts some mentions of the 613 Jewish commandments that the book referenced on multiple occasions (the author was raised Jewish). Next I'll have to work on familiarizing myself with the Quran so I can quote it freely when responding to CC
I rarely read any of it (or contribute) relative to the represented mentality, other than a few subjects which caught my eye recently i.e. this one and a thread on Christmas. That said, the difference in my approach (vs. other atheists) is your/their angry anti-theism, as a whole; it’s evident in all threads, even the aforementioned. Hence, yeah, it’s laughable when an atheist can’t lightly discuss the holiday sans having to hear about the Bible and religion (from other atheists, no less).
That said, what do you mean by I ‘show no concern whatsoever’? I’m simply expressing my opinion in a thread that appears to somewhat align with my perspective (although I am not familiar with the book), and I’m foolishly/angrily told I’m ’batting for the other team’. Yeah, again, it’s laughable.
That’s hilarious coming from you (or any in this thread who obnoxiously continue to bicker my opinion as an atheist re: the intolerance of theism or theists, as a whole), particularly relative to this thread.
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Originally Posted by Matt Marcinkiewicz
Maybe to ruffle CC's feathers some more in the future, I'll start sprinkling into my posts some mentions of the 613 Jewish commandments that the book referenced on multiple occasions (the author was raised Jewish). Next I'll have to work on familiarizing myself with the Quran so I can quote it freely when responding to CC
It’s all the same to me i.e. meaningless, no matter what religion you are or how you were raised. That’s the point; it doesn’t bother me in the same way it does you. That said, it’s downright bizarre you would suggest familiarizing yourself with the Quran so you can ‘quote it freely’ for me simply because I ignore (and have no interest in) any and every religious text.
My Dad is an atheist; my mom was a Christian, but not committedly so. My family did go to church occasionally when my brother and I were kids; but even then, the emphasis was on community and helping others (as opposed to a god).
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That said, it’s downright bizarre you would suggest familiarizing yourself with the Quran so you can ‘quote it freely’ for me simply because I ignore (and have no interest in) any and every religious text.
Then, ironically, you're missing out on the one thing religion does provide: interesting culture. Yes, it's fiction, but isn't reading fiction books worthwhile?
The holy books are among the most important literary texts there are.
The holy books are among the most important literary texts there are.
Relative to impact/influence on religion, yes. Divine significance/applicability, no (especially relative to atheists).
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