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Old 12-15-2009, 02:53 PM
 
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Puritans this time.

"The generality of Christmas-keepers observe that festival after such a manner as is highly dishonourable to the name of Christ. How few are there comparatively that spend those holidays (as they are called) after an holy manner. But they are consumed in Compotations, in Interludes, in playing at Cards, in Revellings, in excess of Wine, in mad Mirth ...".

-Reverend Increase Mather, 1687

When Christmas Was Banned in Boston | Massachusetts Travel Journal

Cromwell was busy in England during this time.

"Cromwell banned Christmas as people would have known it then. By the C17th, Christmas had become a holiday of celebration and enjoyment - especially after the problems caused by the civil war. Cromwell wanted it returned to a religious celebration where people thought about the birth of Jesus rather than ate and drank too much. In London, soldiers were ordered to go round the streets and take, by force if necessary, food being cooked for a Christmas celebration. The smell of a goose being cooked could bring trouble. Traditional Christmas decorations like holly were banned.

"Amazingly, this dour, joy-crushing attitude lasted for 400 years in Scotland".

Did You Know? - Christmas Celebrations in Scotland
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:49 PM
 
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The Puritans were a religious sect in the 16th and 17th centuries - they no longer exist today.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:51 PM
 
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Really? wow!
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:09 AM
 
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In that culture, at that time, the holiday had become much like Mardi Gras season has become in NO.

Drunken parties in the streets, the prostitute came out of their houses and did business publicly, and it had become entirely accepted by the masses.

They were a sect who opposed that culture.
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Old 12-16-2009, 07:17 AM
 
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"....consumed in Compotations"

I've got to remember that one.
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Old 12-16-2009, 09:49 AM
 
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Why did god-fearing puritans hate christmas

Obedience out of fear is not worship, it is merely compliance.
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Old 12-17-2009, 03:36 AM
 
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The Puritans arose out of an effort to "purify" the Church of England of all "non-Biblical corruptions" they believed existed in Catholicism. They were therefore dissatisfied with the Anglican attempt to be "a middle way" between Catholicism and the Reformation.

From their perspective Christmas was Catholic and therefore semi-pagan. Or it was semi-pagan and became Catholic, whichever. They found no Biblical justification for it and so it was one of those things they sought to "purify" out.

It might also be the drunken party element, but despite their disapproval of drunkenness the original Puritans were actually quite fond of alcohol so that might not be the issue. (Now the early Methodists, unlike most modern Methodists, were somewhat morally perfectionist and might have started the ball-rolling on opposition to alcohol.)
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Old 12-17-2009, 11:54 AM
 
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Observance of Christ's birth is not the same as the observance of Christmas.

Christmas is and was celibrated in a secular manner.

The Lord's name is in the title, but not in the observance, for most anyway.

Some do not party, exchange gifts, or any of the other spin offs. Jehovah's don't celibrate Christmas.

Ho Ho Ho
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Old 12-17-2009, 12:59 PM
 
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Jehova Witnesses and some conservative evangelicals also don't celebrate Christmas, it's not the birthday of Jesus, the bible does at least nowhere say so.

This Christian pages condemns Christmas also:

That Devilish Spirit of Christmas (http://www.thepathoftruth.com/falsehoodexposed/devilishspiritofchristmas.htm - broken link)
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Old 12-17-2009, 01:24 PM
 
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Links like that make me Love Wicca more everyday...
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