12-14-2010, 11:20 AM
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I ask this because a group of blacks in my office were talking about this and they all seemed to agree that they didnt know anyone that celebrated this holiday NOT to stir up any racial BS. They seemed to infer that this was some sort of made up or faux holiday. I personally have never meet anyone that celebrates it but hey I'm white. Yet I do see more and more Happy Kwanzaa mentioned during the holiday season. Why is this?
The histoy of Kwanzaa is listed below. Take a look at the background of the black nationalist who invented it. He seems to be quite the nefarious character to me. Convicted of touturing women???
"In 1971, Karenga "was sentenced to one to ten years in prison on counts of felonious assault and false imprisonment". [8] One of the victims gave testimony of how Karenga tortured her and another woman whom he had accused of attempting to assassinate him." Kwanzaa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maulana Karenga - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
12-15-2010, 01:57 AM
Location: Atlanta
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People. Group of black
people .
Yeah, Kwanzaa is made up. Most holidays are. I don't know anyone who celebrates it either, but that means exactly nothing. Let's be generous and say that I "know" the 300 people that I'm Facebook friends with, plus maybe 50 other people. That means I know about one one-millionth of the United States. But I wouldn't make any assumptions about what the rest of the country is doing or not doing.
As far as Karenga goes, that's the risk you run with celebrating manufactured holiday - you might find out something unsavory about its origins later. Some people are a bit bothered by the existence of public holidays that honor guys who owned slaves or who went around "discovering" places that were doing just fine before they showed up.
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Yet I do see more and more Happy Kwanzaa mentioned during the holiday season. Why is this?
You might find this shocking. Are you sitting down?
It's because somebody is trying to SELL SOMETHING.
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12-15-2010, 11:20 AM
Location: Mableton, GA USA (NW Atlanta suburb, 4 miles OTP)
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Happy ChristmaHanuKwanzaakah!
We actually call it ChristmaHanuKwanzaaYulekah because we have a number of friends who celebrate Yule.
12-15-2010, 11:36 AM
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Ummm, yeah. I celebrate Kwanzaa, and have been for most of my life. A lot of my friends do as well.
12-15-2010, 11:38 AM
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People. Group of black people .
So I totally said this without realizing you said it as well. Great minds...
12-15-2010, 12:10 PM
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Lots of people are "nefarious." This country is built on characters of much more questionable moral character, (Columbus, Pilgrims who brought genocide to Native Americans, the slave-holding "founders" of this country, the racist but-I-still-want to-have-babies-with-my-black-slave Thomas Jefferson) yet that doesn't stop folks from celebrating Thanksgiving or Fourth of July.
Oh brother.
Another attempt at villifying the people who created, from utter nothingness, in just 250 years what is still the greatest country on the planet. It would be disturbing if it werent absolutely and utterly laughable.
"Founders" in paranthesess? Sure, the land was here before. But if left to their own devices the indians would NEVER have built anything like, or nearly as good, as what the USA is today.
12-15-2010, 01:01 PM
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Oh brother.
Another attempt at villifying the
people who created, from utter nothingness, in just 250 years what is still the greatest country on the planet. It would be disturbing if it werent absolutely and utterly laughable.
"Founders" in paranthesess? Sure, the land was here before. But if left to their own devices the indians would NEVER have built anything like, or nearly as good, as what the USA is today.
Which people? The Chinese who were abused on the railroads that led to the dramatic growth and pioneering of the West coast? The enslaved Africans who for centuries provided free labor that led this country to the economic freedom it has today? The children who risked their lives in factories at the turn of the century? No, certainly, I am not vilifying these builders of the country. In fact, I'm not vilifying anybody. I'm simply stating history.
And back to the topic at hand, the bottom line is that at the end of the day this country still celebrates the Columbuses and Jeffersons of the world, so the indiscretions faced by Kwanzaa's founder don't quite keep me up at night.
12-15-2010, 01:36 PM
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Which people ? The Chinese who were abused on the railroads that led to the dramatic growth and pioneering of the West coast? The enslaved Africans who for centuries provided free labor that led this country to the economic freedom it has today? The children who risked their lives in factories at the turn of the century? No, certainly, I am not vilifying these builders of the country. In fact, I'm not vilifying anybody. I'm simply stating history.
Which people did I mean? Do I really have to say it? The evil (wealthy) white people of course! Whitey is evil. Lets all chant it together!!!
You arent worth it.
12-15-2010, 02:46 PM
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Which people did I mean? Do I really have to say it? The evil (wealthy) white people of course! Whitey is evil. Lets all chant it together!!!
You arent worth it.
Aww, I'm not worth Bullbwear with the victim compwex. Poor, poor me :-(.
12-15-2010, 04:35 PM
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Aww, I'm not worth Bullbwear with the victim compwex. Poor, poor me :-(.
Oh dear. Bizchick is trying to goad me -- everybody see? LOL
But Ill bite. What the heck. It is christmas after all (notice the holiday I left out
Bizchick plays the angry black persona with such gusto! She upends history by claiming that it was the poow widdle african slaves, chinese and precious children who actually BUILT this country while whitey raped, pillaged and looted his way to fortune. Awwwww boohoooo If only there was just ONE place on the planet where, in the absence of whitey, africans had built their own glorious society. Sadly, there isnt.
Im familiar with reparations bizchick. Whitey OWES you a big ole check dont he? Its clear thats what you are all about. Not gonna happen. Golly gee, we let you have Kwanzaa - aint that enough?
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Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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