2 Stabbings on New Years eve - 5 Points and Underground (Atlanta: apartment, homes)

[chiatldal]

FlyiMetro is it you giving me the rep points?

[DTL3000]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Like I say, I may be living in a time warp. But I refuse to accept the idea that you can get your throat cut at Five Points on New Years Eve as "the new normal." It may be a losing cause but I'll continue to protest against that as "just a fact of life" in a large cities. It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we simply need to shrug and say, "Eh, it happens everywhere."

Amen. I'll stand with you. That argument is a cop out and it's not even true. Incidents like this(not always rising to the level of murder) occur at way too many public events. Remember the chaos at Screen on the Green? There is a class of predatory people in this city that the cops even seem to be afraid of. Decent people should be able to go to a public event and expect it to be safe. That seems to be the exception in this city.

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

No sorry, a Mecca is a place people go to, get off it.

Why do they go there?

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by chiatldal

FlyiMetro is it you giving me the rep points?

no

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Like I say, I may be living in a time warp. But I refuse to accept the idea that you can get your throat cut at Five Points on New Years Eve as "the new normal." It may be a losing cause but I'll continue to protest against that as "just a fact of life" in a large cities. It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we simply need to shrug and say, "Eh, it happens everywhere."

It happens everywhere

[FlyiMetro]

Originally Posted by DTL3000

Amen. I'll stand with you. That argument is a cop out and it's not even true. Incidents like this(not always rising to the level of murder) occur at way too many public events. Remember the chaos at Screen on the Green? There is a class of predatory people in this city that the cops even seem to be afraid of. Decent people should be able to go to a public event and expect it to be safe. That seems to be the exception in this city.

I was at that screen on da green. Watching wild black kids throwing rocks & trash cans at innocent people that were just there to watch a movie. Its not the worst thing I have seen since living here...But I agree with you. The Ghetto animal type blends in very easy in Atlanta.

[tonygeorgia]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Like I say, I may be living in a time warp. But I refuse to accept the idea that you can get your throat cut at Five Points on New Years Eve as "the new normal." It may be a losing cause but I'll continue to protest against that as "just a fact of life" in a large cities. It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we simply need to shrug and say, "Eh, it happens everywhere."

Well Charlotte, Dallas, etc had so many robberies, home invasions, etc last year. Crime happens everywhere especially in those cities.

[FlyiMetro]

It happens everywhere so its cool.

[TSQQST]

Originally Posted by johnatl

I can guarantee you that you are hearing from this particular poster:

[/i]

You are quite wrong. That is an untrue attack on me, and I did not send the rep comments. People send me threatening, racist and homophobic anonymous rep points at me every day. I have a good idea I know who some of the people are. Everyone thinks it's ok to do this to each other. What kind of city is Atlanta? I feel very, very threatened now when I am here, both when I leave my hotel and online.

[AcidSnake]

You act as if crime had never existed throughout man's history. It's pretty tragic that a young man had to lose his life at the Peach Drop, but you shouldn't frame this one event as some pivotal moment of "oh my gosh Atlanta's going to heck" period.

As others have noted in many other threads on city-data, Atlanta has experienced much worse crime than this current period in its history, especially during the late seventies & early eighties. In those days most of the crime was isolated in the old projects like Techwood & East Lake.

You also gotta keep in mind that up until the 90's the 24hr news networks, the internet, and cellphones wasn't much in play, so anyone who had a relatively middle class lifestyle was mostly shielded from the insanity. See no evil, hear no evil was the mindframe for that 1970's thru 80's timespan.

Maybe Atlanta should bring back the projects again eh? I hope I'm not sounding too elitist here, but I don't exactly see a resounding success from sending section 8'ers into the middle class neighborhoods and hoping that they would automatically absorb the good moral values.

Darn Pandora's box...

Originally Posted by arjay57

Like I say, I may be living in a time warp. But I refuse to accept the idea that you can get your throat cut at Five Points on New Years Eve as "the new normal." It may be a losing cause but I'll continue to protest against that as "just a fact of life" in a large cities. It doesn't have to be that way, nor do we simply need to shrug and say, "Eh, it happens everywhere."