01-13-2011, 09:48 AM
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^^^ this is JUST the mind set im talking about lol. That "If you dont like GA and 'OUR' way of doing things, then leave"......
No, sir or maam or whatever species of life you fall into, I am a tax paying citizen of this state (like many on this forum, especially those that whine about over taxation and the like) and I have a right to exist and thrive in GA like all others here. Even if I did leave, you would STILL be iced in up to your eyeballs with no reasonable means to deal with it besides letting the sun come out.
Consider the hundreds of folks who had medical emergencies that were left high and dry due to the state's incompetence....
Consider the many truck drivers that sat stranded on the perimeter, 75, 85, and the 10 car pile up on I 20......
Consider that this ice storm is costing the state millions in lost revenue and business....
Consider the hundreds of travelers stranded at Greyhound and Hartsfield, many with young children and scant resources....
No, I will NOT leave...instead, I will make my voice known to the right avenues to bring about change in this fair state.
You know, if I wasnt black and had dreadlocks, Id consider running for the Governor of Ga myself. And I just might do that. Someone needs to rout out the filth that is the Ga political machine and who better to do than the good ole boys WORSE nightmare.....a well groomed VERY articulate dreadhead that has the the superior intellect and gall to take on the machine at its core! Ha!
But I digress. This post is concerns our rant against the state and local governments for their failure to pre plan for an Ice storm. Feel how you want about the proud state of Ga, but 100 truck drivers, THOUSANDS of stranded passengers, and MILLIONS of atlantans cant all be wrong now can they.....
If I recall, I do believe the Bible states that "In the mouths of TWO or THREE witnesses is established the truth...." Good advice. I suggest that the good ole state of GA should take heed since Ga is such a "christian" state.....smh......
Just my dollar minus the $.98 in taxes lol
PS....912, you quoted me twice as two different persons........there goes that Georgia education system for you lol....
Not only this, but alot of supplies can't get to other states, such as Florida, because of the stranded trucks.
It is fitting to note that Georgia is the 11th most corrupt state in the USA, more corrupt than Louisiana now.
01-13-2011, 09:51 AM
Location: Atlanta
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Did anyone see the GDOT spokeswoman's reaction to CBS Atlanta's "tough questions"? LOL. How does this woman still have a job? She is paid to put a smile on her face and answer questions, not refuse to answer questions and stop the interview... it just makes GDOT look guilty and stupid.
01-13-2011, 09:59 AM
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I'm from Boston and I find this extrapolation to be absurd. First of all most of Atlanta received 4 to 6 inches for an average of 5. This is 2.5 times the annual average - but keep in mind that some winters the area receives only a dusting and other times 4 or 5 inches for the season - so just looking at the average is meaningless. The area should be prepared to deal with 4 to 5 inch snowfalls every winter, because this can happen any given year potentially - but is more likely to happen every 2 or 3 years. In the winters with no snowfall, the equipment can be rented out to NC or TN if they happen to get snowfalls or need additional help.
What part of "we don't get more than 2 inches of snow per year" is confusing to you? More than 3 inches is a rare event. 4 or 5 even rarer. As much as we got the other day only happens once ever few decades.
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But anyway, Boston would never ever receive 42 inches in one day let alone 350% of that. First of all, to have that sort of moisture (at least 420 in of precipitation with 10:1 ratios), the storm would have to be a coastal storm which would keep snow ratios down and temperatures higher, making this nearly impossible. What is not nearly as impossible is Atlanta receiving twice as much as its HISTORICAL average - again this does not mean that every year an even 2 inches falls and that's it - the POTENTIAL is there for significantly more.
Well of course its ridiculous to think that the scenario I described would ever happen. What is not ridiculous is what happens when a city experiences a weather event that is in excess of what happens 9 times out of 10 and is beyond their control to prepare for.
I'm not making any excuses for the Governor or GDOT, who I think are absolute morons, but we had a natural disaster. It takes a bit to get things back to normal.
01-13-2011, 10:07 AM
Location: Techified Blue (Collar)-Rooted Bastion-by-the-Sea
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What part of "we don't get more than 2 inches of snow per year" is confusing to you? More than 3 inches is a rare event. 4 or 5 even rarer. As much as we got the other day only happens once ever few decades.
I think you are the one getting confused - which weather god has set the rule that "We don't get more than 2 inches of snow per year"? If I recall correctly Hartsfield recorded 4 inches in one storm either last year or the year before. And there were the same national news shots of cars sliding down uncleared roads.
5 inches of snow with icing on top is NOT a natural disaster. This is actually reasonably common for northernmost Georgia and it just happened to occur a little bit south of there in the metro area this time. What exactly has been destroyed for this to be a natural disaster?? Look at the floods in Australia, the tsunamis, earthquakes and hurricanes if you want to see a natural disaster.
01-13-2011, 10:07 AM
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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I lived in Boston for 4 long winters. They are hardly better at clearing the streets than we are, quite frankly, given how much snow they get. But, the Boston drivers know better how to drive in that type of condition than do we and they are accustomed to it, so are more likely to grin and bear it and simply brave the conditions.
01-13-2011, 10:12 AM
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I think you are the one getting confused - which weather god has set the rule that "We don't get more than 2 inches of snow per year"? If I recall correctly Hartsfield recorded 4 inches in one storm either last year or the year before. And there were the same national news shots of cars sliding down uncleared roads.
It might have happened, but I don't know. I've lived in Georgia most of my life (Over 30 years) and trust me, 4 inches is rare indeed. I can count on my hand how many times we've had snows like we've had this week. Using one hand and only four fingers.
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5 inches of snow with icing on top is NOT a natural disaster. .
It is when you have 4 straight days of sub freezing temperatures and barely any equipment to remove it. Why this is such a difficult concept to understand is beyond me.
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darkone
This is actually reasonably common for northernmost Georgia and it just happened to occur a little bit south of there in the metro area this time. What exactly has been destroyed for this to be a natural disaster?? Look at the floods in Australia, the tsunamis, earthquakes and hurricanes if you want to see a natural disaster.
So just because things weren't destroyed it's not a natural disaster? Things don't always have to go to extremes for it to be a disaster.
Anyway, moving on now, it's clear you aren't interested in dealing with this situation as it is.
01-13-2011, 10:20 AM
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I lived in Boston for 4 long winters. They are hardly better at clearing the streets than we are, quite frankly, given how much snow they get. But, the Boston drivers know better how to drive in that type of condition than do we and they are accustomed to it, so are more likely to grin and bear it and simply brave the conditions.
Nice try, but I don't buy this. Maybe you're talking about some inaccessible side streets and alleys in Boston proper and Everett and Somerville etc. but those areas have densities far greater than anything in Atlanta (which has suburban densities for the most part). You will find the main streets cleared with snow piled to the sides not sitting in the median or still covering half the street two days later. Every last subdivision in every last town in that region is cleared out by the next morning even after a 20 inch. snowfall hammers the region. I have lived decades in that area, and I know how winters are handled there. I am not expecting Atlanta or GA to operate at that level, for obvious reasons ...
01-13-2011, 10:27 AM
Location: Sanford, NC
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why dont they brime the roads before the storm gets here. like nc sc tn does.
They put down brine on the roads here every time a storm is forecast. It helps at best, but it's way overrated. You still have ice on the roads. Best thing to do is stay home and enjoy it. I don't mind losing some money for snow cause we rarely get any.
01-13-2011, 10:30 AM
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Nice try, but I don't buy this. Maybe you're talking about some inaccessible side streets and alleys in Boston proper and Everett and Somerville etc. but those areas have densities far greater than anything in Atlanta (which has suburban densities for the most part). You will find the main streets cleared with snow piled to the sides not sitting in the median or still covering half the street two days later. Every last subdivision in every last town in that region is cleared out by the next morning even after a 20 inch. snowfall hammers the region. I have lived decades in that area, and I know how winters are handled there. I am not expecting Atlanta or GA to operate at that level, for obvious reasons ...
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It sure is nice to see old Mr. Sol beaming down. Go sun, beat ice!
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People in Group quarters - Other types of correctional institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Nursing homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards, hospices, and schools for the handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals/wards and hospices for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospices or homes for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Military hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Other hospitals or wards for chronically ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Hospitals or wards for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Mental (Psychiatric) hospitals or wards (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Schools, hospitals, or wards for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the deaf (%)
People in Group quarters - Institutions for the blind (%)
People in Group quarters - Orthopedic wards and institutions for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in general hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Wards in military hospitals for patients who have no usual home elsewhere (%)
People in Group quarters - Juvenile institutions (%)
People in Group quarters - Long-term care (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for abused, dependent, and neglected children (%)
People in Group quarters - Residential treatment centers for emotionally disturbed children (%)
People in Group quarters - Training schools for juvenile delinquents (%)
People in Group quarters - Short-term care, detention or diagnostic centers for delinquent children (%)
People in Group quarters - Type of juvenile institution unknown (%)
People in Group quarters - Noninstitutionalized population (%)
People in Group quarters - College dormitories (includes college quarters off campus) (%)
People in Group quarters - Military quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - On base (%)
People in Group quarters - Barracks, unaccompanied personnel housing (UPH), (Enlisted/Officer), ;and similar group living quarters for military personnel (%)
People in Group quarters - Transient quarters for temporary residents (%)
People in Group quarters - Military ships (%)
People in Group quarters - Group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes or halfway houses for drug/alcohol abuse (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally ill (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the mentally retarded (%)
People in Group quarters - Homes for the physically handicapped (%)
People in Group quarters - Other group homes (%)
People in Group quarters - Religious group quarters (%)
People in Group quarters - Dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Agriculture workers' dormitories on farms (%)
People in Group quarters - Job Corps and vocational training facilities (%)
People in Group quarters - Other workers' dormitories (%)
People in Group quarters - Crews of maritime vessels (%)
People in Group quarters - Other nonhousehold living situations (%)
People in Group quarters - Other noninstitutional group quarters (%)
Residents speaking English at home (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking English at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking Spanish at home - Foreign born (%)
Residents speaking other language at home (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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