01-17-2011, 02:43 PM
Location: Odessa, FL
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...but I don't.
(And no I am not seeking legal advice)
This morning on the way to work with the roads pleasantly light thanks to the MLK holiday, I was traveling down I-75 just inside the perimeter along a stretch that I know GSP patrols heavily. I was going at a speed that kept up with traffic but was perhaps a bit faster than I normally use along this stretch. I will not admit what that speed actually was but it was typical for I-75 on a late workday morning. So you can use your imagination.
I came upon a car that was, shall we say, not keeping up with the flow of traffic. So I moved left to what happened to be the leftmost standard lane (next to the HOV lane). As I looked in my rearview mirror I saw a black car coming up very fast. Now ordinarily I would react by saying "tough" and do my usual speed as I passed the other car. But today for some reason I was in a good mood and decided to get out of the way. So I moved to my right to let Mr. Black-Car-Speed-Demon blow on by.
And he did. I moved back in to the left lane to pass the slower car and as we came up over a rise guess who was lurking on the right shoulder? One GSP patrol car. As I watched I saw the officer get back in his car and pull out in to traffic with lights flashing. He pulled behind Mr. Black-Car-Speed-Demon and the two of them moved over to the shoulder.
My first reaction was "Yes! There is justice." Then I realized that if I had refused to move out of his way he would have been forced to slow down and likely would not have gotten a ticket. So then I felt guilty..... for about 5 seconds.
I did exactly what Mr. Black-Car-Speed-Demon wanted me to do: I got out of his way. And Mr. Black-Car-Speed-Demon ended up with exactly what he deserved. A speeding ticket -- maybe even a Super Speeder speeding ticket.
It also occurred to me that if I had unwisely decided to speed up passing that car to accommodate the Speed Demon behind me, it is likely that I would have been the one to get the speeding ticket. And then I would have been very angry.
01-17-2011, 02:59 PM
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Whats your point? I am glad you moved over, and if I was the speed demon than it wold have been my own fault. Personally I hate people that sit in the left lane going 10 over saying I am not going to scoot over for someone going faster. It causes more accidents for the faster person to try to guess if you are going to scoot over or if I have to go around you, and then have to get back in the fast lane. Either way you are both breaking the law and is it going to make that much of a difference if he was going 5 miles faster than you? I doubt it. Now if it was 20 miles faster than you its a different story. But then you also need to take into account so many other factors, type of car, brakes, age of person driving, etc. I can tell you my Porsche with 19" brembo brakes weighing 3000 pounds is going to stop hundreds of feet sooner than a truck weighing 10,000 pounds or even a Camry with normal brakes weighing 5000 pounds.
01-17-2011, 03:03 PM
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ecuresident
Whats your point? I am glad you moved over, and if I was the speed demon than it wold have been my own fault. Personally I hate people that sit in the left lane going 10 over saying I am not going to scoot over for someone going faster.
Good grief, how fast do you want to go? The speed limits are for safety, and they apply to everyone, not just some people.
BTW I've owned some pretty bad Porsches but I didn't wind them out on I-75 at rush hour. There are other places for that.
01-17-2011, 03:15 PM
Location: Odessa, FL
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ecuresident
It causes more accidents for the faster person to try to guess if you are going to scoot over or if I have to go around you, and then have to get back in the fast lane. Either way you are both breaking the law and is it going to make that much of a difference if he was going 5 miles faster than you? I doubt it. Now if it was 20 miles faster than you its a different story.
The difference in our speeds was closer to 20 than it was to 5. I looked in my side view mirror before taking the lane and he wasn't visible. By the time I got in to the lane he was still a good bit behind me but clearly coming up fast. I was barely out of the lane when he passed me.
"It causes more accidents for the faster person...." Well here's a tip you can use to help avoid those kind of accidents.........
SLOW DOWN!!!
So if you are trying to do 85 and you have an accident with someone doing 70 because he wouldn't move out of your lane that is somehow not your fault???
01-17-2011, 03:25 PM
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billl
The difference in our speeds was closer to 20 than it was to 5. I looked in my side view mirror before taking the lane and he wasn't visible. By the time I got in to the lane he was still a good bit behind me but clearly coming up fast. I was barely out of the lane when he passed me.SLOW DOWN!!!
No, I am not saying it isnt your fault, I am just saying it causes accidents. Any idiot can drive fast in a straight line, so help that idiot out. Getting in his way isnt going to slow him down, just cause him to slam on his brakes, go around you and speed back up. The left lane is supposed to be a passing lane, but no one seems to understand that here, and wants to "police" the faster drivers by staying in that lane and going slower. And yes I do drive fast, normally around 80 mph on the interstate, but thats not that much faster than the majority of people are going anyway. And I agree that it isnt the best place to "open it up" during rush hour, which I dont do, because where the the heck are you going to go, the average speed is like 40 mph, so you cant even go 90mph.
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01-17-2011, 03:28 PM
Location: Odessa, FL
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ecuresident
No, I am not saying it isnt your fault, I am just saying it causes accidents. Any idiot can drive fast in a straight line, so help that idiot out.
Well if anything this proves that I shouldn't feel guilty.
Generally I do stay out of the fast lane if I'm not passing. But if I am passing and someone behind me wants to pass
faster , I tend to have little sympathy or understanding.
That was clearly the case this morning.
01-17-2011, 03:41 PM
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Totally agree, if you are passing. The problem is the number of people that arent, that stay in that lane, or take 3 miles to pass!
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01-17-2011, 04:07 PM
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When I was down there in November, I had to laugh at all the signs that say
"Keep Moving" when you are merging onto the expressway, interstate, whatever you call it. I have heard that people just come to a dead stop instead of merge in when they have a lane. That would annoy me!
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Residents speaking other language at home - Born in the United States (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Native, born elsewhere (%)
Residents speaking other language at home - Foreign born (%)
Class of Workers - Employee of private company (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed in own incorporated business (%)
Class of Workers - Private not-for-profit wage and salary workers (%)
Class of Workers - Local government workers (%)
Class of Workers - State government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Federal government workers (%)
Class of Workers - Self-employed workers in own not incorporated business and Unpaid family workers (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in houses and condos - No fuel used (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Utility gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Bottled, tank, or LP gas (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Electricity (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Fuel oil, kerosene, etc. (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Coal or coke (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Wood (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Solar energy (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - Other fuel (%)
House heating fuel used in apartments - No fuel used (%)
Armed forces status - In Armed Forces (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Veteran (%)
Armed forces status - Civilian - Nonveteran (%)
Fatal accidents locations in years 2005-2021
Fatal accidents locations in 2005
Fatal accidents locations in 2006
Fatal accidents locations in 2007
Fatal accidents locations in 2008
Fatal accidents locations in 2009
Fatal accidents locations in 2010
Fatal accidents locations in 2011
Fatal accidents locations in 2012
Fatal accidents locations in 2013
Fatal accidents locations in 2014
Fatal accidents locations in 2015
Fatal accidents locations in 2016
Fatal accidents locations in 2017
Fatal accidents locations in 2018
Fatal accidents locations in 2019
Fatal accidents locations in 2020
Fatal accidents locations in 2021
Alcohol use - People drinking some alcohol every month (%)
Alcohol use - People not drinking at all (%)
Alcohol use - Average days/month drinking alcohol
Alcohol use - Average drinks/week
Alcohol use - Average days/year people drink much
Audiometry - Average condition of hearing (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear a whisper from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - People that can hear normal voice from across a quiet room (%)
Audiometry - Ears ringing, roaring, buzzing (%)
Audiometry - Had a job exposure to loud noise (%)
Audiometry - Had off-work exposure to loud noise (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high blood pressure (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Checking blood pressure at home (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Frequently checking blood cholesterol (%)
Blood Pressure & Cholesterol - Has high cholesterol level (%)
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at supermarket/grocery store
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on food at other stores
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on eating out
Consumer Behavior - Money monthly spent on carryout/delivered foods
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at supermarket/grocery store (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on food at other stores (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on eating out (%)
Consumer Behavior - Income spent on carryout/delivered foods (%)
Current Health Status - General health condition (%)
Current Health Status - Blood donors (%)
Current Health Status - Has blood ever tested for HIV virus (%)
Current Health Status - Left-handed people (%)
Dermatology - People using sunscreen (%)
Diabetes - Diabetics (%)
Diabetes - Had a blood test for high blood sugar (%)
Diabetes - People taking insulin (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Diet health (%)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Milk product consumption (# of products/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals not home prepared (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Meals from fast food or pizza place (#/week)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Ready-to-eat foods (#/month)
Diet Behavior & Nutrition - Frozen meals/pizza (#/month)
Drug Use - People that ever used marijuana or hashish (%)
Drug Use - Ever used hard drugs (%)
Drug Use - Ever used any form of cocaine (%)
Drug Use - Ever used heroin (%)
Drug Use - Ever used methamphetamine (%)
Health Insurance - People covered by health insurance (%)
Kidney Conditions-Urology - Avg. # of times urinating at night
Medical Conditions - People with asthma (%)
Medical Conditions - People with anemia (%)
Medical Conditions - People with psoriasis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with overweight (%)
Medical Conditions - Elderly people having difficulties in thinking or remembering (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever received blood transfusion (%)
Medical Conditions - People having trouble seeing even with glass/contacts (%)
Medical Conditions - People with arthritis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with gout (%)
Medical Conditions - People with congestive heart failure (%)
Medical Conditions - People with coronary heart disease (%)
Medical Conditions - People with angina pectoris (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had heart attack (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had stroke (%)
Medical Conditions - People with emphysema (%)
Medical Conditions - People with thyroid problem (%)
Medical Conditions - People with chronic bronchitis (%)
Medical Conditions - People with any liver condition (%)
Medical Conditions - People who ever had cancer or malignancy (%)
Mental Health - People who have little interest in doing things (%)
Mental Health - People feeling down, depressed, or hopeless (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble sleeping or sleeping too much (%)
Mental Health - People feeling tired or having little energy (%)
Mental Health - People with poor appetite or overeating (%)
Mental Health - People feeling bad about themself (%)
Mental Health - People who have trouble concentrating on things (%)
Mental Health - People moving or speaking slowly or too fast (%)
Mental Health - People having thoughts they would be better off dead (%)
Oral Health - Average years since last visit a dentist
Oral Health - People embarrassed because of mouth (%)
Oral Health - People with gum disease (%)
Oral Health - General health of teeth and gums (%)
Oral Health - Average days a week using dental floss/device
Oral Health - Average days a week using mouthwash for dental problem
Oral Health - Average number of teeth
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to control insects (%)
Pesticide Use - Households using pesticides to kill weeds (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity work activities (%)
Physical Activity - People walking or bicycling (%)
Physical Activity - People doing vigorous-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - People doing moderate-intensity recreational activities (%)
Physical Activity - Average hours a day doing sedentary activities
Physical Activity - Average hours a day watching TV or videos
Physical Activity - Average hours a day using computer
Physical Functioning - People having limitations keeping them from working (%)
Physical Functioning - People limited in amount of work they can do (%)
Physical Functioning - People that need special equipment to walk (%)
Physical Functioning - People experiencing confusion/memory problems (%)
Physical Functioning - People requiring special healthcare equipment (%)
Prescription Medications - Average number of prescription medicines taking
Preventive Aspirin Use - Adults 40+ taking low-dose aspirin (%)
Reproductive Health - Vaginal deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Cesarean deliveries (%)
Reproductive Health - Deliveries resulted in a live birth (%)
Reproductive Health - Pregnancies resulted in a delivery (%)
Reproductive Health - Women breastfeeding newborns (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had a hysterectomy (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that had both ovaries removed (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever taken birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women taking birth control pills (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used Depo-Provera or injectables (%)
Reproductive Health - Women that have ever used female hormones (%)
Sexual Behavior - People 18+ that ever had sex (vaginal, anal, or oral) (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had anal sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Males 18+ that ever had any sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had vaginal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever performed oral sex on a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had anal sex with a man (%)
Sexual Behavior - Females 18+ that ever had any kind of sex with a woman (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first had sex
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female vaginal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a woman (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of woman performed oral sex on in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male anal sex partners in lifetime (males 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average age people first performed oral sex on a man (18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male oral sex partners in lifetime (18+)
Sexual Behavior - People using protection when performing oral sex (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of times people have vaginal or anal sex a year
Sexual Behavior - People having sex without condom (%)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of male vaginal sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Average number of female sex partners in lifetime (females 18+)
Sexual Behavior - Circumcised males 18+ (%)
Sleep Disorders - Average hours sleeping at night
Sleep Disorders - People that has trouble sleeping (%)
Smoking-Cigarette Use - People smoking cigarettes (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with smell (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ having problems with taste (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had wisdom teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had tonsils teeth removed (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a loss of consciousness because of a head injury (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had a broken nose or other serious injury to face or skull (%)
Taste & Smell - People 40+ that ever had two or more sinus infections (%)
Weight - Average height (inches)
Weight - Average weight (pounds)
Weight - Average BMI
Weight - People that are obese (%)
Weight - People that ever were obese (%)
Weight - People trying to lose weight (%)
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