Sunday Alcohol Sales (moving to, activity, dental)

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Here's the diff. Let's say my religious beliefs prohibit the eating of pork because it is unclean. [Deuteronomy 14:8]. Now, I have every right to not eat pork. But on what basis would I have the authority to prohibit everyone else from eating it?

Exactly, and that was my earlier point that was lost on our friend. Muslims, Jews, and Adventists each have a sabbath on a day other than Sunday. If I were a Muslim or a Jew, why can't I demand that we cater to my religious belief? The reason is the First Amemdment...why is this such a hard concept for some....honestly?

[Georgia]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Exactly, and that was my earlier point that was lost on our friend. Muslims, Jews, and Adventists each have a sabbath on a day other than Sunday. If I were a Muslim or a Jew, why can't I demand that we cater to my religious belief? The reason is the First Amemdment...why is this such a hard concept for some....honestly?

Well, being an old German Evangelical Lutheran myself, I enjoy my wine at church on Sunday during communion
I never have understood the thought process. You can drink Monday through Saturday, but not Sunday. On Sunday you go to Church, but you can have wine at communion. Then after church, the day of so called rest and church, the parishners head out in droves to the local restaurant to have mounds of food prepped and delivered to them table side by the heatherns who missed church because they are... bad? But oh! that is ok because I went to church. Yes, I digress, but doesn't that sound about as absurd as banning beer and wine on Sunday?

[axemanjoe]

Originally Posted by Georgia

Well, being an old German Evangelical Lutheran myself, I enjoy my wine at church on Sunday during communion
I never have understood the thought process. You can drink Monday through Saturday, but not Sunday. On Sunday you go to Church, but you can have wine at communion. Then after church, the day of so called rest and church, the parishners head out in droves to the local restaurant to have mounds of food prepped and delivered to them table side by the heatherns who missed church because they are... bad? But oh! that is ok because I went to church. Yes, I digress, but doesn't that sound about as absurd as banning beer and wine on Sunday?

I wouldnt say you digressed at all, this whole debate was brought on because the delisional bunch sees it fit to ban liquor sales on sunday. They cant ban drinking what you bought the other six days of the week, so their last bastion is to prohibit purchasing it on sunday. So it's readily apparent that this is an issue that is completely driven by the foolish religious zealots who think they know best for every one else.

[neil0311]

Let's draw an analogy here...fast food. Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-Fil-A, closed his restaurants on Sunday. He now requires all frinchisees to likewise close on Sunday. I respect him for putting his money where his mouth is, and I support his right to run his business in a way that's consistent with his beliefs.

Is he missing out on revenue? You bet. Is he probably making some customers angry when they wanto buy some yummy chicken on Sunday but can't? Probably. The difference here is that he has the right to operate his business the way he feels is best. He is not trying to force all restaurants to close on Sunday. If he believes in closing on Sunday, no one will stand in his way as a religious person.

Where he would be stepping over the line, and where some people step over the line with Sunday alcohol sales, is the forcing via legislation of others to adhere to their religious based beliefs. Again, if folks can't see and understand the difference, then I don't know how much clearer it can be made.

[Bing147]

This is all very weird to me... I'm from up north where the only restriction is no sales between 2 AM and 6 AM... its sold 7 days a week, 365 days a year and you can get the hard stuff in grocery stores. It hasn't ruined the society yet...

[Iconographer]

Originally Posted by neil0311

Let's draw an analogy here...fast food. Truett Cathy, the founder of Chick-Fil-A, closed his restaurants on Sunday. He now requires all frinchisees to likewise close on Sunday. I respect him for putting his money where his mouth is, and I support his right to run his business in a way that's consistent with his beliefs.

Is he missing out on revenue? You bet. Is he probably making some customers angry when they wanto buy some yummy chicken on Sunday but can't? Probably. The difference here is that he has the right to operate his business the way he feels is best. He is not trying to force all restaurants to close on Sunday. If he believes in closing on Sunday, no one will stand in his way as a religious person.

Where he would be stepping over the line, and where some people step over the line with Sunday alcohol sales, is the forcing via legislation of others to adhere to their religious based beliefs. Again, if folks can't see and understand the difference, then I don't know how much clearer it can be made.

A perfect analogy.

[JPD]

Originally Posted by Caltovegas

I have a question. If drunk driving is a crime why is booze allowed to be consumed outside of the home?

There are many reasons for this.

Not everyone who goes to a bar or restaurant got there by driving.
Not everyone who drinks outside of the home drinks to the point of having an illegal blood alcohol content.
Some people bring designated drivers.
Some people take cabs home.
Some people walk home.
Some people who drink too much sober up in the bar and then drive home.

[arjay57]

Originally Posted by JPD

There are many reasons for this.

Not everyone who goes to a bar or restaurant got there by driving.
Not everyone who drinks outside of the home drinks to the point of having an illegal blood alcohol content.
Some people bring designated drivers.
Some people take cabs home.
Some people walk home.
Some people who drink too much sober up in the bar and then drive home.

Not to mention that folks can get totally blitzed at home and then get in their car and drive off.

Regulating drunk driving is not the same as regulating where you drink.

[neil0311]

Originally Posted by arjay57

Regulating drunk driving is not the same as regulating where you drink.

Exactly. Drunk driving puts others' lives at risk. Drinking alcohol either in a bar or at home does not.

Again, the issue at hand is a very, very simple one. Should the State of Georgia be able to restrict how a product is sold, based only on the fact that a certain religious lobby has a preference. The issue isn't "Sunday sales" or "drinking on Sunday" since that's already legal.

The issue is whether or not I can pick up a 6 pack with my groceries on a Sunday, and no one has made a case for there being any reason why it shouldn't be allowed. The only objection has come from someone who has a religious belief and accompanying objection....although I wasn't aware that it was a sin to buy a 6 pack at Kroger and take it home to watch football, but it's perfectly OK to buy beer on tap at Taco Mac and watch the same game. Whether I drive, take a cab, walk, or crawl home makes no difference.

[brownhornet]

Plus you can actually have a drink and still drive as long as youre below the legal limit. Honestly I could drink 2 tall ones and not even be buzzed. On that same token someone could drink those same two and be drunk off their ass. Everyone handles alcohol differently.