Georgia Institue of Technology - Ranks 6th best public universities (good schools, income)

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by DTL3000

Dude...

(Why am I even bothering?)

Do me a fave and save the theatrics. Nothing I said was drama-club worthy. An Asian growth rate of 100% should be reflected in Georgia Tech's student body. Why else would someone have a problem with that?

[BringBackCobain]

Originally Posted by MisterNY

If it's not Cobain (Btw, Kurt is dead...stop asking him to come back ), it's BlondeandFun! (Where is your brother btw?).

What does that have to do with what I said? What are you talking about? Something seems to be itching you....I'm all for diversity, but 100% of a small amount like 3% is still less than 5% of of 45%....Do the math...

Deal with your inadequacies.....

500,000 people isn't "small", and the percentage went from 4% to 5%. this is a big deal no matter how you cut it, and an even bigger deal for a Southern city that had an Asian population of 40,000 in 1990.

[mrpanda]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Do me a fave and save the theatrics. Nothing I said was drama-club worthy. An Asian growth rate of 100% should be reflected in Georgia Tech's student body. Why else would someone have a problem with that?

Cobain,

Though the Asian population growth is impressive from 2000 to 2010 at 81.6% in Georgia. They only represent about 3.2% of the State, which is still below the national average. It would be nice to see that number up to 7-8% which is where New Jersey and Washington is today.

If 7-8% of Georiga's population is Asian, you will see UGA and Georgia Tech's rankings soar.....

but we are not there yet

[MisterNY]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

500,000 people isn't "small", and the percentage went from 4% to 5%. this is a big deal no matter how you cut it, and an even bigger deal for a Southern city that had an Asian population of 40,000 in 1990.

Again, I'm all for diversity. We all benefit (Except xenophobes..ahem. ). May the best and brightest (from all over) come to Atlanta, and make it a better place to live. (When are you leaving by the way? )

It's nice to see it, but I'm trying to understand where your anger, envy, and jealousy come from.

[RainyRainyDay]

Originally Posted by mrpanda

Cobain,

Though the Asian population growth is impressive from 2000 to 2010 at 81.6% in Georgia. They only represent about 3.2% of the State, which is still below the national average. It would be nice to see that number up to 7-8% which is where New Jersey and Washington is today.

If 7-8% of Georiga's population is Asian, you will see UGA and Georgia Tech's rankings soar.....

but we are not there yet

Can we give the racial obsession a rest, please? Intellectually capable people occur in all ethnic groups.

[DTL3000]

Originally Posted by BringBackCobain

Do me a fave and save the theatrics. Nothing I said was drama-club worthy. An Asian growth rate of 100% should be reflected in Georgia Tech's student body. Why else would someone have a problem with that?

The problem is you have absolutely no sense of tact when it comes to things like this. No one is minimizing the growth of Asians in the metro area. Why would those "Afrocentric" types you speak of have anything to fear? They don't and they aren't making any issue of it.

[aries4118]

Originally Posted by RainyRainyDay

Can we give the racial obsession a rest, please? Intellectually capable people occur in all ethnic groups.

[MathmanMathman]

Originally Posted by mrpanda

Cobain,

Though the Asian population growth is impressive from 2000 to 2010 at 81.6% in Georgia. They only represent about 3.2% of the State, which is still below the national average. It would be nice to see that number up to 7-8% which is where New Jersey and Washington is today.

If 7-8% of Georiga's population is Asian, you will see UGA and Georgia Tech's rankings soar.....

but we are not there yet

Ok, I've got it. From now on Georgia Tech only admits Jews and Asians and offers degrees in everything. Tech will then have the highest ranking in all categories and all alumni will get a $100k bonus. Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Stanford, and MIT didn't tell us of this hidden perk.

Oh yeah, and Tech football and b-ball will be #1. Well, maybe not with the demographics I gave for Tech

[rapier7]

Originally Posted by RainyRainyDay

Can we give the racial obsession a rest, please? Intellectually capable people occur in all ethnic groups.

Yes, but the distribution of "intellectual capability" isn't equal.

When it comes to Asian Americans, they have the best K12 test scores, are on par with whites when it comes to per capita income, and have lower incarceration and delinquency rates compared to any other broad demographic category.

The University of California system's flagship is Berkeley. On par with that is UCLA. The student body at both schools are over 45% Asian despite the fact that they only make up 12% of the state population. The reason why these numbers exist in California is because they are legally unable to admit students based on ethnic categories. Each application is numbered so they can't even try and discriminate based on their name.

It's time to stop hiding behind political correctness. Until we openly acknowledge that certain minorities are in much better socioeconomic positions than others, it'll be hard to develop good policy that addresses these disparities.

So let me be as blunt as I can. Black students are, on average, are much worse than the average white and Asian student. I didn't say less capable. And I certainly didn't say inferior. But the cold, hard numbers support my position. If Georgia Tech had double the Asian enrollment it has now, its average test scores would be much higher and that would be positively reflected in the national rankings.

[Mishap]

^The socioeconomic position of certain Asian races in the US is skewed at best. Sure a lot more of us go to college here and do well in K-12 but run the numbers on how we immigrated in the first place. A much larger percentage of Asians in the last few generations have come as a result of education opportunities and more recently due to immigration policies for professional workers. If we started allowing mass immigration for anyone that could break 1400 on the SAT(old scale...who cares about writing), you'd have all US citizens crowded out of all colleges within a few years. At the same time, if you started immigrating randomly from Asia, you'd have a far different/lower numbers. Despite India's fiercely competitive reputation for having very driven and intelligent students, they don't even have 70% literacy rate in India and the % there w/ college degrees(not necessarily good college degrees of course) is less than half that of the US. By gross numbers, they have more people that can't read than the US has people. Of course our immigration policy distills all of that down to their very best and brightest and their progeny is what you find in our colleges.

If you're going into the stats of overrepresented minorities in certain schools you really need to look at the average income of the families sending these kids into school and income per education years. Asians in the US have a far higher % graduate degrees than the population but their median income is slightly higher (suggesting some remaining language barrier/racism issues).

Many studies out there have closely correlated household income w/ education attainment. If you're financially stable enough to focus on your kids education, then they tend to do ok. When normalized for income, you see smaller gaps between races. The UC system gets skewed by parachute kids...kids shipped to the US to improve their chances of going to good schools and bypassing relatively strict systems in Asia. Imagine the resources necessary to pull off shipping your kid abroad to go to middle/hs so they have a shot at a good college. My alma mater didn't provide scholarships/aid to international students so those that showed up had resources for 40-50k/yr and most didn't bat an eye to that. Compare that to the kids at your local private school that's costing 10-20k/yr for HS and I'm sure you'll see similar levels of attainment.

So yeah, Asians aren't necessarily superior...they just are in the US b/c our gov't policy causes those w/ significant resources or educational capability to make it over here. The gov't just doesn't have to deal w/ the illiterate masses left behind.