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Old 05-13-2015, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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When I moved to Ohio after living in Indiana and Kentucky, I was asked, "Are the kids in Indiana tall?" Answer yes. "Are the kids in Kentucky dumb?" Answer no. Southerners have put up with that in the media and from northerners for a long time.
Damn straight. Don't worry though, these days I think it is just jealousy as their towns die slow deaths
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Old 05-14-2015, 06:29 PM
 
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Flying the Confederate flag is not unlike Germany flying the Nazi flag. The swastika was "part of their history" but it is the epitome of the horrors that can been committed by the human race. The Confederate flag, like the Nazi flag, should be relegated to the history books (to learn from) and only the history books. The Civil War is a sad blemish on the history of this great nation. It should not be exalted or given any place of reverence.
It can't be "relegated to the history books" because people have a right to display it if they wish. No matter how much I may disagree or how ignorant it makes them look, it's part of living in a free society.

These monuments were erected from the bitterness of losing the war and the hardships of reconstruction that followed, and are now very historical in nature. For those of us who love history, we love ALL history - not just the pretty parts.

Thanks for dragging up a 4 year-old thread.
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Old 05-21-2015, 02:39 PM
 
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The Confederate Battle Flag stands for freedom, bravery, honor.
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Old 05-21-2015, 03:22 PM
 
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The Confederate Battle Flag stands for freedom, bravery, honor.
It actually stands for the exact opposite of those qualities.


I'm not a fan of the Confederate Battle Flag but you as an individual have the right to fly it, if it pleases you.
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Old 05-22-2015, 11:56 AM
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It actually stands for the exact opposite of those qualities.


I'm not a fan of the Confederate Battle Flag but you as an individual have the right to fly it, if it pleases you.

You don't seem to understand symbols mean different things to different people.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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If the Confederate flag just related to the Civil war that would be one thing. However, in the 1950s it became a symbol for white supremacy and opposition to the civil rights movement. So what it symbolizes today is complicated.
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Old 05-22-2015, 12:27 PM
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If the Confederate flag just related to the Civil war that would be one thing. However, in the 1950s it became a symbol for white supremacy and opposition to the civil rights movement. So what it symbolizes today is complicated.
For African Americans and people like the KKK it tends to represent white supremacy. For many others it represents freedom, bravery and honor as the battle flag of General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia, which did amazing things against overwhelming odds. It has different meanings for different people.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:31 PM
 
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For African Americans and people like the KKK it tends to represent white supremacy. For many others it represents freedom, bravery and honor as the battle flag of General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia, which did amazing things against overwhelming odds. It has different meanings for different people.
The problem is that when somebody raises the Confederate flag, you can't tell whether they are honoring the gallantry of Lee on the battlefield or promoting white supremacy.
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Old 05-22-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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As others have said, the confederate flag has very questionable symbolism because of its past association with racist groups.

But, one of the more powerful things victims of persecution can do is take away the symbols that those who are prejudiced associate themselves with. For that reason, I really hope the confederate flag catches on as a symbol for southern rap, just because it would frustrate racists so much and shift the confederate flag back to representing the south and away from racism.

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Old 05-24-2015, 12:39 PM
 
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If the Confederate flag just related to the Civil war that would be one thing. However, in the 1950s it became a symbol for white supremacy and opposition to the civil rights movement. So what it symbolizes today is complicated.
Those same hate groups also fly the American flag, so I'm not sure what exactly that means either.

The Confederate flag is not going to be popular in today's society because it represented a fracturing of the nation, slavery, rebellion, and other negatives associated with the Civil War. It's too bad (for historical reasons) it was taken as a symbol of white supremacy, but it already had that connotation associated with it so it was an easy transition. What it symbolizes IS complicated, but it's also pretty clear that it stands for ideas that are offensive to the majority.
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