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Old 06-08-2011, 11:32 AM
 
Location: Murika
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Seems to me we have too many folks on this overburdened planet as it is.
Yeah, but they are either not the right "color" or, at the very least, they are not the right creed.

 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:33 AM
 
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Traditional families are often harmful for the women and children involved. Perhaps we should scrap ALL marriage rights.
Well, now you're just being antagonistic... there is a difference between inherent harm and harm caused by poor behavior... but you know that.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:35 AM
 
Location: California
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Yes, divorce harms families, as I personally know, but whether two people can work out their differences is not the same as saying they have no right to try their own relationship by their own definition. Society needs to support relationships, not tear them down so can all benefit.

As a victim of a hetero divorce, I would rather have had any type of stable home environment than being raised by suicidal nut.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:39 AM
 
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I should have clarified. Everyone is born straight. Gay people choose to be gay, usually due to some phsychological trauma at a formative age. There is no gay gene. Gay people choose to deviate from the normal and natural order of things.


When did you make a conscious decision to be attracted to women? I want to know how old your were becuase unlinke you I didn't have to choose.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:43 AM
 
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There is a correlation between the aggressive secularization of a society and its fertility rate.
Correlation=/= Causultation. Since anything can be correlated. I want solid logical evidence that gay people getting rights actually somehow makes people have less babies. As if we are running too low on people on this planet as it is.

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Old 06-08-2011, 11:43 AM
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Well, now you're just being antagonistic... there is a difference between inherent harm and harm caused by poor behavior... but you know that.
V, we're on the same side of this argument, in case you didn't read any of my other posts on this thread.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:44 AM
 
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Divorce harms the family. Do you propose to outlaw divorce? Affairs harm the family. Why not have petitions and boycotts about divorce and affairs? Seems to me we have too many folks on this overburdened planet as it is.
Divorce s for cowards, and the implementation of no-fault divorce was one of the worst things to happen to the family. Affairs are even more cowardly and are for people with no self-control combined with psychological flaws.

As for overpopulation, you are mistaken. Sub-replacement fertility, and not overpopulation, is what people should be worrying about.
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:46 AM
 
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V, we're on the same side of this argument, in case you didn't read any of my other posts on this thread.
I know and I did... just refuting your claim that polygamy should be legal... that's the red herring argument that anti-gay folks usually use... that if you allow gay marriage, you have to allow polygamy, beastiality, etc...
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Ono Island, Orange Beach, AL
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"Divorce is for cowards." Are you married? Ever been married? BBC - I fail to fathom why you make such antagonistic posts. Are you really that angry in life outside the Internet?
 
Old 06-08-2011, 11:51 AM
 
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"Divorce is for cowards." Are you married? Ever been married? BBC - I fail to fathom why you make such antagonistic posts. Are you really that angry in life outside the Internet?
Well, I suppose if you are getting beaten by a drunken spouse or your spouse has decided that sleeping all day is more fun than supporting his family or she habitually humiliates you by having affairs or he insults you constantly in front of friends and family, then you are a coward for leaving... lol... it's really useless to debate fanatics.
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