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Old 07-18-2011, 09:26 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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Indeed. I mean its not the fault of the crooks/thieves -- they were just doing what "comes natural". We should put the "stupid" victims in jail and give the criminals a pat on the back for teaching those dummies a lesson!
Oh geez. Listen, do not play this game that I was insinuating that the criminals responsible for this spree are without fault. If caught they should be charged with grand larceny and kept underneath the jail.

BUT

Any city resident must be prepared to deal with reality. One unfortunate reality of city life is that there are large numbers of people always waiting around for the opportunity to strike. Do not give them the opportunity.

Here are the basic rules to car ownership in a city:

-Never leave anything of value in plain sight. This includes electronics as well as check books, bags with purchased merchandise, tools, and basically anything that can be sold at a pawn shop. Take it inside at night and if that is too difficult put it in your trunk. A car is like your front lawn and not like your bedroom. You wouldn't leave your iPod on a stool in your front yard would you? Why would you do basically the same with your car?

-Do not get cheap insurance coverage if you can afford not to and keep a video/picture catalog of all of your belongings. One big mistake people make is that they take the minimum insurance coverage law literally. They never think of protecting themselves and their investment in getting additional coverage to protect against uninsured drivers, break-ins, and damage caused by natural occurrences. Another is that a lot of people do not keep a visual catalog of the stuff they own. If you submit a claim to the insurance company to help replace what you lost, they rarely "take your word for it".

Despite the obvious guilt of those perpetrators who would break into your car, you really have only yourself to blame if you do not take steps to protect your valuables and by extension your hard earned money.

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Old 07-18-2011, 09:30 AM
 
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Bottom line: don't leave stuff in your car in this city. The surest way to be a victim of crime in this city is to leave something in your car, and the surest way to avoid being the victim of a crime is to avoid leaving anything in your car.

It's would be awesome if the cops started leaving monitored decoy cars around with iPods sitting on the passenger seats, and massively publicize a few busts. At least make the thieves sweat if they want to engage in this sort of crime.
Problem is these kinds of thieves don't really read the news. They're in and out in no time and half of them are just crackhead hobos needing quick money for a fix. Real thieves would be taking more of the high end rims or even headlamp/taillights/airbags of some of these cars. Those generally are worth far more than the dime a dozen GPS units they're getting or the Best Buy special Sony Xplod CD players.

They could probably build in a GPS find feature (ala phone finder apps) in most of these GPS units and they'd probably all converge in one of the many urban campsites around town.

I parked my car outside of my private garage at my apt in Duluth for 5 hrs one evening b/c I was late meeting w/ friends and my car was broken into for a 9yr old CD player and my spare change cup. Repairs to the exterior and dash cost me over 1k and they could get maybe $25 for that CD player but they skipped the $400 in speakers installed in the doors. It wasn't a bad area and my rent was $800/mon back in '06. Crackheads are everywhere so it's best to have a car that's just not a target. That means no fancy wheels, no tint (glass breaks in one piece), no aftermarket stereo, and definitely no windshield mounts.
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Old 07-18-2011, 09:59 AM
 
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Here are the basic rules to car ownership in a city:

-Never leave anything of value in plain sight. This includes electronics as well as check books, bags with purchased merchandise, tools, and basically anything that can be sold at a pawn shop. Take it inside at night and if that is too difficult put it in your trunk. A car is like your front lawn and not like your bedroom. You wouldn't leave your iPod on a stool in your front yard would you? Why would you do basically the same with your car?
A friend of mine had his car broken into repeatedly. APD advised him that the best defense was simply to leave the car unlocked. That way the thieves could get in and poke around, hopefully without tearing anything up.

It sounds counter-intuitive at first but when you think about it it makes sense.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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You live in an fictional reality if you think there is a better alternative than street smarts. Crimes of opportunity will always happen, no matter what. The ONLY thing one can do is make themselves less likely to be the victim.
I dont leave my valuable stuff in view. Its a sad but necessary precaution.

"Crimes Of Opportunity is merely a euphamism for horrid criminal beahvior. There are still many people who could walk by a car with a 50 dollar billl lying on the seat and not feel compelled to bash the window.

COO is like saying a woman who walks to her car alone at night deserves to be raped because she was "careless about her personal security".

Moreover, it points to the degredataion of our society and what qualifies as normal behavior.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Atlanta
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A friend of mine had his car broken into repeatedly. APD advised him that the best defense was simply to leave the car unlocked. That way the thieves could get in and poke around, hopefully without tearing anything up.

It sounds counter-intuitive at first but when you think about it it makes sense.
Sure. Leave your doors open too. Better than having them break in.

Also, when away from home leave a note telling any thieves where the "good stuff" is so they dont have to tear the house up searching. Leaving milk and cookies out is a nice touch too, and should engender kinder treatment of your property -- they might even leave you something as a way of showing their appreciation!
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:16 AM
 
Location: Jupiter, FL
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You live in an fictional reality if you think there is a better alternative than street smarts. Crimes of opportunity will always happen, no matter what. The ONLY thing one can do is make themselves less likely to be the victim.
The name of that fictional reality could be "City-Data Forum Real Estate Broker Fantasyland". You're correct that in the current environment we should all drop our love and trust of fellow Atlantans and act as if we are under siege. But there's no need for you to act so glib and happy about it.

It is a plain and simple fact that this kind of rampant crime did not happen on Lenox Road before the MARTA trains were built. Opponents of the MARTA trains predicted exactly this result. Remember when Lenox Square's police force consisted of an old guy driving a golf cart? I miss those days.

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Old 07-18-2011, 10:36 AM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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It is a plain and simple fact that this kind of rampant crime did not happen on Lenox Road before the MARTA trains were built.
LMAO!

Yes, I'm sure there was zero crime on Lenox Road prior to the train station opening. Zilch, none, nada. hahaha

Also, it is a curious thing bring up in regard to this incident since reports showed it happened in early morning hours when MARTA is shutdown. Whomever committed the crime drove there.

FYI, the train station on Lenox Road has been open for almost 30 years...
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:37 AM
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The name of that fictional reality could be "City-Data Forum Real Estate Broker Fantasyland". You're correct that in the current environment we should all drop our love and trust of fellow Atlantans and act as if we are under siege. But there's no need for you to act so glib and happy about it.

It is a plain and simple fact that this kind of rampant crime did not happen on Lenox Road before the MARTA trains were built. Opponents of the MARTA trains predicted exactly this result. Remember when Lenox Square's police force consisted of an old guy driving a golf cart? I miss those days.
Nothing I said was glib or happy, and I am in no way associated with real estate brokers.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:38 AM
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I dont leave my valuable stuff in view. Its a sad but necessary precaution.

"Crimes Of Opportunity is merely a euphamism for horrid criminal beahvior. There are still many people who could walk by a car with a 50 dollar billl lying on the seat and not feel compelled to bash the window.

COO is like saying a woman who walks to her car alone at night deserves to be raped because she was "careless about her personal security".

Moreover, it points to the degredataion of our society and what qualifies as normal behavior.
You might have a point if I had said anyone deserves to have their car broken into. As it is, you do not have a point.
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Old 07-18-2011, 10:39 AM
 
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It is a plain and simple fact that this kind of rampant crime did not happen on Lenox Road before the MARTA trains were built. Opponents of the MARTA trains predicted exactly this result. Remember when Lenox Square's police force consisted of an old guy driving a golf cart? I miss those days.
What kind of crook is going to ride the train to Lenox, go break into 30 cars and then walk back to the station, wait on the train and schlep his loot back home? I think most of these thieves probably drive to wherever they are robbing.
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